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cooIboyJ's Crematogaster sp. journal

Started By cooIboyJ , Aug 24 2024 10:26 AM
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#1 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted August 24 2024 - 10:26 AM

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I'm going to start a journal on my three Crematogaster sp. queens i caught at the pool a week ago. They haven't laid any eggs yet (from what I can see) but one of them has broken off a wing. Here is a pic of one of the queens:

 

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Brachymyrmex patagonicus

Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.

#2 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted August 24 2024 - 11:17 AM

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nice! hope to see eggs soon.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

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Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#3 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted August 27 2024 - 12:53 PM

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One of the queens has laid one egg and the other two are the same as before.

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Brachymyrmex patagonicus

Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.

#4 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted August 29 2024 - 8:25 AM

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One thing I have noticed is that mated crematogaster lay eggs immediately after caught, whether still in a bottle or vial. The fact that only one has actually laid is not a very good sign. Either they are unmated(and fell into the pool while flying) or are waiting for winter, although again, I have never observed this and I live in South Dakota. I wish you the best of luck!


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#5 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted August 29 2024 - 9:18 AM

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One thing I have noticed is that mated crematogaster lay eggs immediately after caught, whether still in a bottle or vial. The fact that only one has actually laid is not a very good sign. Either they are unmated(and fell into the pool while flying) or are waiting for winter, although again, I have never observed this and I live in South Dakota. I wish you the best of luck!

I found four total and one escaped before I got home. Only one of them was found in the pool and the others were on the floor. Also the egg is gone now.

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#6 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 29 2024 - 10:58 AM

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The Crematogaster cerasi I find here in Virginia usually do not lay eggs until after diapause.
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#7 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted August 29 2024 - 11:02 AM

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The Crematogaster cerasi I find here in Virginia usually do not lay eggs until after diapause.

Do all crematogaster need a diapause? If so then when should I start it?

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#8 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 29 2024 - 11:04 AM

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No. The Crematogaster genus is hyper-diverse with many species not requiring diapause
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#9 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted August 29 2024 - 11:12 AM

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No. The Crematogaster genus is hyper-diverse with many species not requiring diapause

How do you tell if they need a diapause without knowing the species? Will they get all lazy and such?

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Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.

#10 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 29 2024 - 11:17 AM

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Consider the climate where you found them. Do your best to replicate it.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#11 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted August 29 2024 - 2:57 PM

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The Crematogaster cerasi I find here in Virginia usually do not lay eggs until after diapause.

Interesting, especially considering you are in a warmer climate


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#12 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted August 29 2024 - 4:51 PM

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No. The Crematogaster genus is hyper-diverse with many species not requiring diapause

How do you tell if they need a diapause without knowing the species? Will they get all lazy and such?

 

You live in an Arid climate, which indicates pretty much all species in your area should not require diapause.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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#13 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted September 3 2024 - 10:32 AM

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One of the queens has broken off both of her wings and I have noticed a color difference between the three queens. The first queen is all dark brown and the second queen has a lighter brown for her gaster and head with a orangish thorax the third queen has the same coloration as the second but the thorax is darker than the second and lighter than the first.

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Crematogaster sp.

#14 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted September 4 2024 - 6:15 AM

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I have checked on the queens for the last time and there are still no eggs. I am going to wait a month before checking on them because I really want one to be successful so I will not check on them a lot.

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Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.

#15 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted September 9 2024 - 8:49 AM

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I didn't wait a month before checking on them because the urge to check up on them was too strong, but the queens have stopped pulling at the cotton and one of them has pulled of both its wings.


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Crematogaster sp.

#16 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted September 23 2024 - 8:15 AM

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I have good news! One of the queens finally has a small egg pile! :yahoo: :lol: The eggs are pretty big, mostly because I am so used to tiny ants. :lol:


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Crematogaster sp.

#17 Offline AntsTx - Posted September 23 2024 - 3:29 PM

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If you want them to grow faster you should try putting them on a heat mat and they will explode with workers. 


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Camponotus texanus x2                                             Pheidole obtusospinosa - 2 workers

Camponotus vicinus - 15-20 workers                         Solenopsis xyloni x7 - Batch of eggs

Camponotus pennsylvanicus - 95-100 workers         Pheidole lamia - 4 workers                                                                                                                                 

Dorymyrmex bureni - 3 workers

Formica spp. - 5 workers

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis x2

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Crematogaster lineolata x5 - 75-100 workers 

#18 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted September 24 2024 - 7:33 AM

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Would a normal heat mat for people work? Because I don't really want to spend money on a special one.


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Crematogaster sp.

#19 Offline AntsTx - Posted September 24 2024 - 7:53 AM

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Would a normal heat mat for people work? Because I don't really want to spend money on a special one.

I honestly don't know. I use this one and it is a very great heat mat. Just put some of the test tube on it, usually where the area where the queen is and they will grow faster


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Currently Keeping:

Camponotus texanus x2                                             Pheidole obtusospinosa - 2 workers

Camponotus vicinus - 15-20 workers                         Solenopsis xyloni x7 - Batch of eggs

Camponotus pennsylvanicus - 95-100 workers         Pheidole lamia - 4 workers                                                                                                                                 

Dorymyrmex bureni - 3 workers

Formica spp. - 5 workers

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis x2

Neoponera villosa x15

Crematogaster lineolata x5 - 75-100 workers 

#20 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 24 2024 - 8:13 AM

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Would a normal heat mat for people work? Because I don't really want to spend money on a special one.

I would recommend starting here or here with your research.


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Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. -Proverbs 6: 6-8

My Nationwide Ant Shop Here I have PPQ-526 permits to ship ants nationwide

Attention Ant-Keepers in South Dakota! Join the SoDak(Society Of Dakotan Ant Keepers)

My Formica sp. Journal

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My Micro Ants Journal

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