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#1 Offline evanmancini2011 - Posted July 28 2024 - 8:47 AM

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I have been keeping this ant colony for a few years now and I finally decided to have it identified! Does anyone know what species this colony is?

 

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#2 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted July 28 2024 - 9:13 AM

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Crematogaster 


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#3 Offline Stubyvast - Posted July 28 2024 - 2:38 PM

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Yup definitely Crematogaster. You can tell by their heart-shaped gasters, and kind of short length. At least that's what you notice when eyeballing it haha!


Currently raising: 

Myrmica rubra (1 queen +  ~5 workers)

Lasius niger (single queen + ~90+ workers)

Lasius neoniger (3 single queen + brood)

Formica spp. (Queen [likely parasitic, needs brood])

Formica pacifica (Queen)

Also keeping a friend's tetramorium immigrans for the foreseeable future. Thanks CoffeBlock!


#4 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted July 29 2024 - 2:05 PM

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Cematogaster cerasi?

the workers of this species are like 3-5mm and the queen is 8-10mmand they live in the more eastern part of america


Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

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#5 Offline Artisan_Ants - Posted July 30 2024 - 7:00 AM

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Cematogaster cerasi?
the workers of this species are like 3-5mm and the queen is 8-10mmand they live in the more eastern part of america

We can’t just say it’s cerasi (although it did look like my colony and queen). Crematogaster lineolata is about the same being more darker in color but by queens, is hard to ID (we would need a microscopic camera image like that seen on castes). Since you hav workers though, this process will be easier. It is known for C. lineolata to fly earlier than C. cerasi (in October usually) but in some if not most places, their nuptial flight period overlaps (in my area it doesn’t but since both species live in basically the same habitat, I can’t just say so). If you found your queen in November then it’s most likely C. cerasi (which is what I believe it is).
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Keeping:

3x - S. molesta (colonies and single queen)                1x - C. nearcticus (founding but no eggs)   (y) New!

1x - C. chromaiodes (colony)                                       1x - C. subbarbatus (founding)  

1x - F. subsericea (founding)                                        1x - T. sessile (mega colony)

3x - P. imparis (colonies)  

2x - L. neoniger (founding)

 

Check out my C. nearcticus journal here: https://www.formicul...cticus-journal/

Check out my C. chromaiodes journal here: https://www.formicul...aiodes-journal/


#6 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted July 30 2024 - 8:05 AM

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We can’t just say it’s cerasi (although it did look like my colony and queen). Crematogaster lineolata is about the same being more darker in color but by queens, is hard to ID (we would need a microscopic camera image like that seen on castes). Since you hav workers though, this process will be easier. It is known for C. lineolata to fly earlier than C. cerasi (in October usually) but in some if not most places, their nuptial flight period overlaps (in my area it doesn’t but since both species live in basically the same habitat, I can’t just say so). If you found your queen in November then it’s most likely C. cerasi (which is what I believe it is).

In the northeast where you are Crematogaster ID is relatively easier since there's just cerasi, lineolata, and occasionally pilosa, but this is out west in Colorado where there is significantly more species diversity; I wouldn't hazard a guess at species without worker microscopy. The polygyny rules out cerasi anyway.


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#7 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted July 30 2024 - 7:08 PM

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1: I did not realize there are 2 or 3 queens
2: in my area C. cerasi flies in August
3: it looks like cerasi to me so sorry for the misidentification
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Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, (used to be polygynous) 15+ workers with 4 pupa (Idk why they still have)

1x Lasius umbratus, (Workers accepted) 5+ workers with host brood

1x Ponera pennsylvanica, just queen

 

As you watch your ants march, remember: every journey begins with a single step (or queen)-not just towards you, but towards a future woven by diligence and shared dreams - Me

 

(I lost braincells just to make this quote)





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