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Brood is making it to pupa stage and are either dying or the queen is eating them. What's going on?
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cmiller
, Jun 25 2024 7:39 PM
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#1 Offline - Posted June 25 2024 - 7:39 PM
It is a second year queen. The first brood made it to workers but they mysteriously died after estivation.
There are currently no workers.
Here we are going on her second brood. She has been laying eggs since about March, she tends to them, but once they get to pupa stage and very close to workers, I find body pieces littered. I believe she's is killing them before they make it to a full worker. Because I haven't seen the pupa darken up like it has in the past. I can even see the little black eyes on the pupa head after she's ripped it apart.
After I remove the pieces, the cycle is repeated as she has new eggs.
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There are currently no workers.
Here we are going on her second brood. She has been laying eggs since about March, she tends to them, but once they get to pupa stage and very close to workers, I find body pieces littered. I believe she's is killing them before they make it to a full worker. Because I haven't seen the pupa darken up like it has in the past. I can even see the little black eyes on the pupa head after she's ripped it apart.
After I remove the pieces, the cycle is repeated as she has new eggs.
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#2 Offline - Posted June 25 2024 - 8:13 PM
how often are you checking up on her?
Currently keeping
-A. occidentalis
-B. patagonicus
-C. vicinus
-F. neogagates
-M. invidia
-Stennama spec..
I will want to also keep some other lasius types in the future.
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-A. occidentalis
-B. patagonicus
-C. vicinus
-F. neogagates
-M. invidia
-Stennama spec..
I will want to also keep some other lasius types in the future.
You should also subscribe to my youtube channel! https://www.youtube.com/@AsdAnts
#3 Offline - Posted June 25 2024 - 10:21 PM
What species is this?
How often do you feed her?
How often are they disturbed?
Is this colony normally covered and kept away from stressful environment (vibrations like TV and stereo or even a busy corridor)?
Also, the cotton wool looks wet instead of moist, too much humidity could also be a factor.
#4 Offline - Posted June 27 2024 - 5:45 AM
Formica. I feed her every 3 days and she's not disturbed outside the feeding times. In a dark closet away from everythingWhat species is this?
How often do you feed her?
How often are they disturbed?
Is this colony normally covered and kept away from stressful environment (vibrations like TV and stereo or even a busy corridor)?
Also, the cotton wool looks wet instead of moist, too much humidity could also be a factor.
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#5 Offline - Posted June 27 2024 - 6:35 AM
you don’t need to feed the queens if they’re founding, the exception is semi-claustral queens though.
Edited by AsdinAnts, June 27 2024 - 6:36 AM.
Currently keeping
-A. occidentalis
-B. patagonicus
-C. vicinus
-F. neogagates
-M. invidia
-Stennama spec..
I will want to also keep some other lasius types in the future.
You should also subscribe to my youtube channel! https://www.youtube.com/@AsdAnts
-A. occidentalis
-B. patagonicus
-C. vicinus
-F. neogagates
-M. invidia
-Stennama spec..
I will want to also keep some other lasius types in the future.
You should also subscribe to my youtube channel! https://www.youtube.com/@AsdAnts
#6 Offline - Posted June 27 2024 - 8:04 AM
hmm yes if they are semi-claustral definitely feed...if this queen is in second year stage and full-claustral, I'd still suggest you feed her, just because her wing muscles were probably completely used up in the first year, leaving her with no internal food supply. It is possible that the food you are introducing into her test tube is disturbing her, making her stressed and prone to eating her brood. Strange though that she does this at this stage. I'd suggest only feeding her very small bits of food, and much more liquids, in order to avoid disturbing her too much. Judging by her posture in the photos she seemed pretty freaked out. Weird! Hope she does okay!
Edited by Stubyvast, July 1 2024 - 8:11 AM.
Currently raising:
Myrmica Rubra (1 queen + ~5 workers)
Lasius Niger (single queen + ~90+ workers)
Lasius Neoniger (two single queen + brood)
Formica spp. (Queen [likely parasitic, needs brood])
Also keeping a friend's tetramorium immigrans for the foreseeable future. Thanks CoffeBlock!
#7 Offline - Posted June 30 2024 - 9:32 AM
“If they are semi-claustral don’t feed?” Huh? Anyways, I would just remove late-stage pupae and give the queen callow workers that eclose from the pupae.
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#8 Offline - Posted June 30 2024 - 3:24 PM
Yeah semi-claustral ants need feeding.
I recall Formica should have cocoons
Edited by GOCAMPONOTUS, July 1 2024 - 12:59 PM.
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#9 Offline - Posted July 1 2024 - 8:11 AM
“If they are semi-claustral don’t feed?” Huh? Anyways, I would just remove late-stage pupae and give the queen callow workers that eclose from the pupae.
Yup thanks edited that
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Currently raising:
Myrmica Rubra (1 queen + ~5 workers)
Lasius Niger (single queen + ~90+ workers)
Lasius Neoniger (two single queen + brood)
Formica spp. (Queen [likely parasitic, needs brood])
Also keeping a friend's tetramorium immigrans for the foreseeable future. Thanks CoffeBlock!
#10 Offline - Posted July 20 2024 - 4:58 AM
Avoid disturbing her and minimize feeding. Check on her every 7 days or longer; the less you disturb her, the better.
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