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Will ants from the same colony that have been separate for over 24 hr recognize each other?

Started By DEAD_DOG , Jul 2 2024 10:53 PM

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#1 Offline DEAD_DOG - Posted July 2 2024 - 10:53 PM

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Me and my dad are working on fixing up one of his old cars, but it has a colony of what I think are Camponotus vicinus in it, I have been working on moving them to a formicarium and have gotten a few dozen or so workers, a little bit of brude, and one of if not the only queen. I hope to be able to work on transferring more workers from the car to the set up but due to my schedule, I won’t be able to do it for at least a day or so. Will the ants recognize each other‘s pheromones even if they’ve been separated for a long time?
Worker feeding the queen:40b13f7c9face3542eb527894d0c4eae.jpg


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#2 Offline NotAxo - Posted July 3 2024 - 1:11 AM

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It shouldn't be a problem, since the scent on older ants take longer to dissapear. But I'm not sure so best to wait till someone else replies
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#3 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted July 3 2024 - 7:26 AM

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It should not be too much of a problem unless its long term.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

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#4 Offline Serafine - Posted July 3 2024 - 7:31 AM

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It'll need at least a few days for the colony scent to dillute significantly.

Also they are less sceptic if they meet "strange smelling" workers further outwards, so if they haven't seen each other for a few days don't drop them directly onto the brood.


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#5 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted July 3 2024 - 2:50 PM

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The ants look like C.essigi not vicinus.

Edit: the gaster is blacker though


Edited by GOCAMPONOTUS, July 3 2024 - 2:57 PM.

Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#6 Offline Stubyvast - Posted July 3 2024 - 5:23 PM

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Nope they'll recognize each other if it's only been a day...and even up to a week I'm sure would be fine. 


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Myrmica Rubra (1 queen +  ~5 workers)

Lasius Niger (single queen + ~90+ workers)

Lasius Neoniger (two single queen + brood)

Formica spp. (Queen [likely parasitic, needs brood])

Also keeping a friend's tetramorium immigrans for the foreseeable future. Thanks CoffeBlock!

#7 Offline The_Gaming-gate - Posted July 5 2024 - 3:10 PM

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Camponotus seem to be very good at recognizing workers, so they should be able to recognize their sisters for over a week. Callows could have trouble, but they should recognize the other ants as well.

The nest you found probably only had one queen- multiqueen Camponotus colonies are rare, although I’m not sure about this specific species.

Edited by The_Gaming-gate, July 5 2024 - 3:11 PM.

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Ants are small creatures... but together... they can rule the world.

 

 

 

#8 Offline Stubyvast - Posted July 5 2024 - 6:59 PM

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Apparently C. Vicinus is one of the only Camponotus that can form polygynous colonies, although I'm unsure if this is just during the founding stage or for life. 


Currently raising: 

Myrmica Rubra (1 queen +  ~5 workers)

Lasius Niger (single queen + ~90+ workers)

Lasius Neoniger (two single queen + brood)

Formica spp. (Queen [likely parasitic, needs brood])

Also keeping a friend's tetramorium immigrans for the foreseeable future. Thanks CoffeBlock!

#9 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted July 5 2024 - 8:01 PM

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There are a few other poly species like C.clarithorax. but some also found together in pleometrosis. An example of this is C.ca02


Edited by GOCAMPONOTUS, July 5 2024 - 8:02 PM.

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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#10 Offline NotAxo - Posted July 11 2024 - 7:29 AM

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I'm not sure, but I've kept C. irratians in polygynous setups. I've only kept them till a dozen nanitics, after which I've had to release them

Currently raising : C. Parius (2x), C. Vitiosus (2x), Carebara Diversa (1x), C. irratians (2x), M. brunnea (1x)

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