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Started By cooIboyJ , Mar 6 2024 4:21 PM
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#1 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted March 6 2024 - 4:21 PM

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here is my brother's new fire ant colony.

 

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#2 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted March 6 2024 - 4:29 PM

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Looks like solenopsis Invicta. correct me if I am wrong


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Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#3 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted March 6 2024 - 4:59 PM

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ok, thanks!


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“You’ll survive” -wise man.
Currently keeping:
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Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.

#4 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted March 6 2024 - 5:07 PM

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you're welcome!


Edited by GOCAMPONOTUS, March 6 2024 - 5:08 PM.

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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#5 Offline ReignofRage - Posted March 6 2024 - 8:36 PM

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Solenopsis xyloni is most likely. It would require better images to get an ID.


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#6 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted March 6 2024 - 8:41 PM

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A agree with @ReignofRage now I see that xyloni has a lighter red color compared to Invicta witch has a darker hed


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#7 Offline bmb1bee - Posted March 6 2024 - 10:15 PM

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I don't think S. invicta have been established in Nevada yet, so likely S. xyloni as Reign states. I might be wrong on the establishing thing though.


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#8 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted March 7 2024 - 7:15 AM

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S.Invicta is in some parts of Nevada but it looks more like S.xyloni.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#9 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted March 7 2024 - 9:15 AM

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ok


“You’ll survive” -wise man.
Currently keeping:
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Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.

#10 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted March 7 2024 - 9:18 AM

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Is the S.xyloni common? Because we found a small colony of them under basically every other rock, but we couldn't find their queen.


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Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.

#11 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted March 7 2024 - 9:34 AM

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Yes pretty common fire ant in Nevada.


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1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#12 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted March 7 2024 - 11:00 AM

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ok


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“You’ll survive” -wise man.
Currently keeping:
Brachymyrmex patagonicus

Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.

#13 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted March 7 2024 - 11:03 AM

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Also they sting and it hurts for a few hours.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#14 Offline cooIboyJ - Posted March 7 2024 - 11:05 AM

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Yeah, my brother got stung by a supermajor when we were getting the queen. But it was on the knee so it didn't hurt very much.


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Currently keeping:
Brachymyrmex patagonicus

Solenopsis invicta

Crematogaster sp.

#15 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted March 7 2024 - 11:06 AM

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Yes it is not that painful.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#16 Offline bmb1bee - Posted March 7 2024 - 12:04 PM

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Next time avoid collecting from whole colonies, unless you're sure you can get all of them. Since you collected the queen and just a handful of workers, she has a low chance of restarting the colony from almost scratch. They should be fine since you did collect workers, but they might not end up well because they didn't have as many as they used to. Also, the rest of the colony and brood you left behind are pretty much wasted, since they no longer have a queen.


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#17 Offline bmb1bee - Posted March 7 2024 - 12:09 PM

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And I'd also recommend you to try moving them into a test tube so that they're easier to observe. You mentioned that the substrate in the container was wood chips in a separate thread; I'd avoid that because it might mold later on.


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#18 Offline ReignofRage - Posted March 7 2024 - 1:26 PM

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Yeah, my brother got stung by a supermajor when we were getting the queen. 

 

S. xyloni, and every Solenopsis in Nevada, do not have supermajors.


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#19 Offline Artisan_Ants - Posted March 7 2024 - 1:34 PM

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The brighter red, and basically all black gaster and the range on the map explained by the others is all making me believe that this is indeed S. xyloni (but yes, just color isn’t a KEY identifier at all of course). Although, both species have (I think) the same amount of petioles as see from pictures. And the more common variant variant of S. xyloni is the one you have found (please correct me If I’m wrong on that since I am not very familiar with this species).

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3x - S. molesta (colonies and single queen)                1x - C. nearcticus (founding but no eggs)   (y) New!

1x - C. chromaiodes (colony)                                       1x - C. subbarbatus (founding)  

1x - F. subsericea (founding)                                        1x - T. sessile (mega colony)

3x - P. imparis (colonies)  

2x - L. neoniger (founding)

 

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#20 Offline ReignofRage - Posted March 7 2024 - 1:37 PM

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Solenopsis as a whole genus has two petioles - there is no difference in the number of petioles between any two species of Solenopsis.


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