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#21 Offline The_Gaming-gate - Posted April 21 2024 - 11:37 AM

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I'd give them an outworld once the workers harden. Also make sure to keep an eye on their seed storage, they are known to mold.


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#22 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted April 21 2024 - 11:38 AM

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Yeah I put them into a tubs&tubes setup.
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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

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Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#23 Offline The_Gaming-gate - Posted April 21 2024 - 5:58 PM

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Great! I know they’ll do well.
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#24 Offline bmb1bee - Posted April 22 2024 - 9:56 AM

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I would take this with a grain of salt, but the red acrylic thing seems to be a myth from what I've heard from the more experienced keepers. It doesn't have too much of an effect, unless if you happen to be keeping ants that are particularly sensitive to light. Most ants can be acclimated to dim or indirect light, though keeping them in the dark would be best of course. 


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#25 Offline Ernteameise - Posted April 22 2024 - 11:21 AM

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I would take this with a grain of salt, but the red acrylic thing seems to be a myth from what I've heard from the more experienced keepers. It doesn't have too much of an effect, unless if you happen to be keeping ants that are particularly sensitive to light. Most ants can be acclimated to dim or indirect light, though keeping them in the dark would be best of course. 

This is partially true.

There are scientific papers on the sight of ants.

They checked for rods and cones in the eyes of ants (like in vertebrate eyes) and have found out that most ants indeed do not see colors or red light. They are color blind, like most mammals are.

This makes sense, since ants have evolved to live underground and live in a world of smell. Many ant species have bad eye sight in general and very small eyes.

 

However. There are species (especially hunting species, and species like Myrmecia and Gigantiops = which literally means "giant eye") that see very well and also see all colors.

 

Also, while most ants do not see red light, they do see light intensities. I can observe this very well- I have a red light which has 2 intensities- 1. weak and soft and 2. full red floodlight. If I shine the soft red light on my colonies, all is well and they go about their business and do not mind. If I shine the full power flashlight on them, all of them freak out.

 

I observed with my own colonies that while they can adapt to normal light, they will prefer a red cover and feel more save there.


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#26 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted April 26 2024 - 10:29 AM

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To be fair, I don't bother at all with red filters any more. I used to. Young colonies (e.g. just a few workers) I tend to put in shaded areas, but older, thriving colonies just sort of sit around wherever I put them (some even tolerate afternoon sun, and in fact love the extra heat). For me, the one BIG exception is Prenolepis. They are super sensitive. My Veromessor, though, just hang out with their flat glass top nests and get normal light.


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Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

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#27 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted April 26 2024 - 4:12 PM

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4 more workers *eclosed


Edited by GOCAMPONOTUS, April 27 2024 - 3:12 PM.

Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#28 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted April 27 2024 - 2:58 PM

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4 more workers enclosed

I think you mean eclosed ... kind of the opposite :lol:


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Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus (inactive), vicinus, laevigatus/quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.


#29 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted April 27 2024 - 3:11 PM

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my bad :X  %)


Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#30 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted May 20 2024 - 4:47 PM

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Well I slacked off and forgot to check the seed storage and it molded killing all but one worker and the queen with some brood.  :facepalm: :(  But on good news the queen is pumping out eggs again.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#31 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted May 20 2024 - 4:49 PM

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Edited by GOCAMPONOTUS, May 20 2024 - 4:49 PM.

Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#32 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted May 20 2024 - 4:50 PM

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Edited by GOCAMPONOTUS, May 20 2024 - 4:52 PM.

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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#33 Offline The_Gaming-gate - Posted May 21 2024 - 4:09 AM

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Well I slacked off and forgot to check the seed storage and it molded killing all but one worker and the queen with some brood. :facepalm: :( But on good news the queen is pumping out eggs again.

This is why if I get harvesters, I’m moving them to a formicarium the moment they get workers. I refuse to put up with this. (Of course it would be a small formicarium, like a mini-hearth.)

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#34 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted May 31 2024 - 5:06 PM

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They are making a comeback with more brood :lol:

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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 


#35 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted June 9 2024 - 1:39 PM

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6/9/24

Dead

 

 

When I checked up on this colony all the brood turned into workers and a few hours later when I was going to take pics  I saw the workers pulling the queen's legs and biting her like she was food. She soon died :*(


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 





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