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Camponotus queen caught in late August?


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#1 Offline Voidley - Posted August 24 2023 - 7:00 PM

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I caught this queen at around 2pm today (Aug 24) in New York. She is 17-18mm long and I'm reasonably confident that she is Camponotus pennsylvanicus however it seem's they don't really fly this late in the year. She has shed her wings so I assume she has already mated but I didn't see any other alates so I'm not sure if they had a nuptial flight. Can flights this late in the year happen with this species? If not then why did I find her, or is she a different species altogether? Thanks.

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#2 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 25 2023 - 2:05 AM

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Most likely a nest reject that didn’t fly at the proper time. It is doubtful, but not impossible that she is mated.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#3 Offline gs5248 - Posted August 25 2023 - 6:43 AM

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Was she found at high elevation? I remember going up in the mountains in Tahoe and seeing a huge Camponotus nuptial flight in late July to early August. I was finding queens absolutely everywhere.


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#4 Offline Voidley - Posted August 25 2023 - 6:50 AM

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Was she found at high elevation? I remember back going up in the mountains in Tahoe and seeing a huge Camponotus nuptial flight in early late July to early August. I mean I was finding queens absolutely everywhere.

Yeah she was found pretty close to sea level—I guess that doesn't bode too well for her having mated.



#5 Offline dspdrew - Posted August 25 2023 - 5:02 PM

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We have Camponotus vicinus (all black variety) that fly in August up in higher elevations.



#6 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 25 2023 - 7:46 PM

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We have Camponotus vicinus (all black variety) that fly in August up in higher elevations.

East coast is a different ballgame. Viable queens flew many moons ago.
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#7 Offline AntsTopia - Posted August 25 2023 - 10:45 PM

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Well while anting the other day I did see a Camponotus queen run by me. I didn't collect her since I have no real interest in carpenter queens. Regardless the two occurrences are very strange.
Keeper of:
Camponotus castaneus | 20-25 workers
Tetramorium Immigrans | 1,000+ workers (yes I gave them a brood boost don’t be salty!)
Aphaenogaster Rudis | 16 workers
Pheidole bicarinata | 50-60 workers

Ants are just better.




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