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L neoniger and parasitic lasius nuptial flight on Long Island

Started By Jonathan5608 , Oct 7 2022 2:26 PM

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#1 Offline Jonathan5608 - Posted October 7 2022 - 2:26 PM

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Really wasn’t expecting this one and I in-fact planned to look for p. imparis in December because that’s when antwiki said the nuptial flights began but here we are I caught 8 queens but most of them are winged so I’m not certain of fertility but it seemed like the flight was long over.6B9CAACF-C9B4-4953-8883-84D32954AC95.jpeg

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#2 Offline Jonathan5608 - Posted October 7 2022 - 3:03 PM

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These guys got giant gasters

#3 Offline OiledOlives - Posted October 8 2022 - 3:19 AM

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Really wasn’t expecting this one and I in-fact planned to look for p. imparis in December because that’s when antwiki said the nuptial flights began but here we are I caught 8 queens but most of them are winged so I’m not certain of fertility but it seemed like the flight was long over.attachicon.gif6B9CAACF-C9B4-4953-8883-84D32954AC95.jpeg

This is Lasius neoniger

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#4 Offline Jonathan5608 - Posted October 8 2022 - 5:10 AM

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Yep I was wrong but prenolepis imparis did come out so nuptial flights should happen soon. Are there nuptial flights nocturnal? Oh and l neoniger are monogyne right.

Edited by Jonathan5608, October 8 2022 - 5:11 AM.

#5 Offline ANTdrew - Posted October 8 2022 - 5:27 AM

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Plot twist!

Yep I was wrong but prenolepis imparis did come out so nuptial flights should happen soon. Are there nuptial flights nocturnal? Oh and l neoniger are monogyne right.

There is no way Prenolepis will fly soon in New York.
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#6 Offline Jonathan5608 - Posted October 8 2022 - 5:44 AM

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What are these guys. I think there might have been two nuptial flights going on5D5F6099-6384-4E9C-A5DA-BA601755ED78.jpeg

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#7 Offline ANTdrew - Posted October 8 2022 - 6:30 AM

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Lasius parasites.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#8 Offline Jonathan5608 - Posted October 8 2022 - 6:33 AM

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Gotcha so I need brood. Looks like a Lasius aphidicola

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#9 Offline ANTdrew - Posted October 8 2022 - 6:47 AM

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Just let them go.
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#10 Offline Jonathan5608 - Posted October 8 2022 - 6:53 AM

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Just let them go.

Will they still be able to found a successful colony?

#11 Offline ANTdrew - Posted October 8 2022 - 9:28 AM

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Why not? Do your research.
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#12 Offline Jonathan5608 - Posted October 8 2022 - 9:44 AM

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Why not? Do your research.

releasing them into the open makes them a target for predators so I was a little concerned that they might be predated on before being able to found a colony. I released two but I’m gonna try my hand at two.

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#13 Offline OiledOlives - Posted October 8 2022 - 10:09 AM

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Gotcha so I need brood. Looks like a Lasius aphidicola

It's Lasius claviger

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#14 Offline OiledOlives - Posted October 8 2022 - 10:11 AM

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Yep I was wrong but prenolepis imparis did come out so nuptial flights should happen soon. Are there nuptial flights nocturnal? Oh and l neoniger are monogyne right.

Prenolepis imparis only ever fly in the late year in the south, and it is rare for them to do so. Most imparis will fly on the first 70+ day of the year.

Yes, neoniger practice secondary monogyny.

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#15 Offline Jonathan5608 - Posted October 8 2022 - 4:46 PM

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Gotcha so I need brood. Looks like a Lasius aphidicola

It's Lasius claviger

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I thought it was a umbratus or aphidicola

#16 Offline OiledOlives - Posted October 8 2022 - 7:23 PM

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It is not. Both are in the Chthonolasius subgenus and one is not found in the New World. They also look completely different from Acanthomyops.

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#17 Offline Jonathan5608 - Posted October 8 2022 - 9:47 PM

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It is not. Both are in the Chthonolasius subgenus and one is not found in the New World. They also look completely different from Acanthomyops.

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I introduced some wild workers both have at least ten. Is that enough to start a colony

#18 Offline United-Ants - Posted October 8 2022 - 10:26 PM

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30 to 50 workers in my experience

#19 Offline BDantsalberta - Posted March 31 2023 - 6:40 PM

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50+ is usually safe


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