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[Canadian anter]

Hi Guys! I've been waiting for a bit, but I FINALLY got my hands on an import permit!

 

(This one is for Camponotus castaneus, Formica pallidefulva, Monomorium minimum, and Aphaenogaster treatae from Florida)

 

It seems as that even though almost-native species can't be imported at all (for commercial/personal use), some of our natives can be brought in, as long as they aren't know pests.

 

With that said, I'm looking for anyone with the following in the following year. Just to be clear, I understand that my address is pretty prominently on the permit-- you can look up Canada Ant Colony on Google and get the same result.

 

I require a permit per person from the Canadian government, and they require a name and address, so warning on that part.

 

To transport to Canada legally, the ants will be shipped direct to Reptile Express, which is an experienced pet importer at Niagara Falls. They are situated by the customs inspection site. A vet will inspect the ants beforehand to confirm the identity. Please note that the import process is fairly expensive (i.e. up to a couple hundred dollars per person per shipment), so higher numbers of queens are quite a bit better.

 

100% natives:

Aphaenogaster treatae

Aphaenogaster fulva

Aphaenogaster tennesseensis

Camponotus americanus

Camponotus subbarbatus

Camponotus laevigatus

Camponotus vicinus

Camponotus semitestaceus

Crematogaster cerasi/lineolata (POLYGYNOUS POPULATION)

Formica bradleyi

Formica obscuripes

Formica ulkei

Formica subpolita

Formica transmontanis

Liometopum luctuosum

Manica hunteri

Manica invidia

Myrmecocystus testaceus

Pheidole pilifera ** dubious

Pheidole californica

Proceratium silaceum

Strumigenys pulchella

Strumigenys pergandei

Stigmatomma pallipes

Stigmatomma oregonense

Temnothorax americanus

Temnothorax rudis

Temnothorax rugatulus

Temnothorax nevadensis

 

Okay not sure about these ones cause they were on the gov. records and are old as hell and I don't think they're actually present here, but I'm willing to try

Pogonomyrmex barbatus

Camponotus sayi

 

*To be clear, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis does not require an import permit to Canada

 

Permit:

https://drive.google...ew?usp=sharing 

Edited by Canadian anter, October 8 2021 - 5:57 AM.

[Antkeeper01]

Hi Guys! I've been waiting for a bit, but I FINALLY got my hands on an import permit!

 

(This one is for Camponotus castaneus, Formica pallidefulva, Monomorium minimum, and Aphaenogaster treatae from Florida)

 

It seems as that even though almost-native species can't be imported at all (for commercial/personal use), some of our natives can be brought in, as long as they aren't know pests.

 

With that said, I'm looking for anyone with the following in the following year. Just to be clear, I understand that my address is pretty prominently on the permit-- you can look up Canada Ant Colony on Google and get the same result.

 

I require a permit per person from the Canadian government, and they require a name and address, so warning on that part.

 

To transport to Canada legally, the ants will be shipped direct to Reptile Express, which is an experienced pet importer at Niagara Falls. They are situated by the customs inspection site. A vet will inspect the ants beforehand to confirm the identity. Please note that the import process is fairly expensive (i.e. up to a couple hundred dollars per person per shipment), so higher numbers of queens are quite a bit better.

 

100% natives:

Aphaenogaster treatae

Aphaenogaster fulva

Aphaenogaster tennesseensis

Camponotus americanus

Camponotus subbarbatus

Camponotus laevigatus

Camponotus vicinus

Camponotus semitestaceus

Crematogaster cerasi/lineolata (POLYGYNOUS POPULATION)

Formica bradleyi

Formica obscuripes

Formica ulkei

Formica subpolita

Formica transmontanis

Liometopum luctuosum

Manica hunteri

Manica invidia

Myrmecocystus testaceus

Pheidole pilifera ** dubious

Pheidole californica

Proceratium silaceum

Strumigenys pulchella

Strumigenys pergandei

Stigmatomma pallipes

Stigmatomma oregonense

Temnothorax americanus

Temnothorax rudis

Temnothorax rugatulus

Temnothorax nevadensis

 

Okay not sure about these ones cause they were on the gov. records and are old as hell and I don't think they're actually present here, but I'm willing to try

Pogonomyrmex barbatus

Camponotus sayi

 

*To be clear, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis does not require an import permit to Canada

 

Permit:

https://drive.google...ew?usp=sharing 

good luck! hope you get some!

[Zeiss]

For the Camponotus laevigatus, is that the updated nomenclature for what used to be C. quercicola or the outdated C. laevigatus which is now C. laevissimus?

[Canadian anter]

For the Camponotus laevigatus, is that the updated nomenclature for what used to be C. quercicola or the outdated C. laevigatus which is now C. laevissimus?

Ah apologies, it should be laevissimus

[ANTdrew]

I could probably help with the C. castaneus, but not in any large quantities.

[Canadian anter]

I could probably help with the C. castaneus, but not in any large quantities.

PMed

[Canadian anter]

Update: Permits submitted for 

 

Aphaenogaster treatae

Aphaenogaster tennesseensis

Camponotus americanus

Camponotus subbarbatus

Camponotus laevigatus

Camponotus vicinus

Camponotus semitestaceus

Crematogaster cerasi/lineolata (POLYGYNOUS POPULATION)

Colobopsis obliqua ** dubious

Colobopsis impressa ** dubious

Colobopsis mississipiensis ** dubious

Liometopum luctuosum

Manica hunteri

Manica invidia

Myrmecocystus testaceus

Nylanderia vividula ** dubious

Nylanderia parvula

Pheidole pilifera ** dubious

Pheidole californica

Proceratium silaceum

Strumigenys pulchella

Strumigenys pergandei

Temnothorax rugatulus

Temnothorax nevadensis

 

From Nevada, Tennessee, Virginia, Arizona, California

 

We'll see how everything goes. For species I believe might not be approved, I've marked "dubious"

[Canadian anter]

Update:

I've been approved for:

Aphaenogaster treatae

Aphaenogaster tennesseensis

Camponotus americanus

Camponotus castaneus

Camponotus subbarbatus

Forelius pruinosus (Funny enough, rejected on the Florida permit, but approved for Tennessee)

Pheidole pilifera (they approved it after I was able to find a record) from Bugguide + Suppliers

Proceratium silaceum

Strumigenys pulchella

Strumigenys pergandei

 

Permit attached below (excluding personal information of the sender. This permit application was submitted on Sept. 27)

 

https://drive.google...ew?usp=sharing 

Edited by Canadian anter, October 14 2021 - 5:00 PM.

[Chickalo]

To confirm, you have the permit, and I don't need one?

 

Also next summer I might be able to get some castenus for you, maybe pilifera if I feel like biking the 10 miles (or go to Cranes during greenhead season).

[Canadian anter]

To confirm, you have the permit, and I don't need one?

 

Also next summer I might be able to get some castenus for you, maybe pilifera if I feel like biking the 10 miles (or go to Cranes during greenhead season).

I need a permit PER PERSON, and we establish the species on the permit beforehand

[Canadian anter]

So, I've just been approved for 

 

PHEIDOLE CALIFORNICA,

CAMPONOTUS VICINUS,

CAMPONOTUS LAEVISSIMUS,

MYRMECOCYSTUS TESTACEUS,

LIOMETOPUM LUCTUOSUM,

CAMPONOTUS SEMITESTACEUS from California

 

Weirdly, though, (I assume because the government is so efficient)

 

I was approved for 

 

COLOBOPSIS OBLIQUA

COLOBOPSIS MISSISSIPPIENSIS

COLOBOPSIS IMPRESSA

NYLANDERIA VIVIDULA

NYLANDERIA PARVULA

 

from Virginia on the permit, but received an email like this

 

 

Hello,

We regret to inform you that pursuant to Subsection 42(1) of the Plant Protection Regulations, the following material:

COLOBOPSIS OBLIQUA, COLOBOPSIS MISSISSIPPIENSIS, COLOBOPSIS IMPRESSA, NYLANDERIA VIVIDULA (HYMENOPTERA: FORMICIDAE) is prohibited entry into Canada

These measures are taken in order to prevent the introduction into and/or spread within Canada of injurious plant pests which are known to occur in the country of origin.

For further information on the importation of plants and other things, please refer to our website www.inspection.gc.ca/english/plaveg/internat/importe.shtml

Dean

Case Management Officer – National Centre for Permissions - Plant

Canadian Food Inspection Agency / Government of Canada

E-mail Address: cfia.permission.acia@canada.ca / Tel. : 1-855-212-7695

 

So we will see clarification later

 

Virginia Permit: https://drive.google...ew?usp=sharing 

California Permit: https://drive.google...ew?usp=sharing 

[TennesseeAnts]

Dude, why didn't we add Aphaenogaster fulva to my permit? I can get loads of those.

[Canadian anter]

Dude, why didn't we add Aphaenogaster fulva to my permit? I can get loads of those.

Shoot, I didn't think of that-- I'll message you later about it

[TennesseeAnts]

 

Dude, why didn't we add Aphaenogaster fulva to my permit? I can get loads of those.

Shoot, I didn't think of that-- I'll message you later about it

 

Alright, sounds good!

[Canadian anter]

So... Recently, I threw in a permit with tons of exotics from Florida

 

They rejected everything...except for Nylanderia bourbonica, an invasive ant

Either way, I will be testing some pest risk assessments for lower-risk exotics (e.g. Trachymyrmex, Cyphomyrmex, Colobopsis, etc)

[Canadian anter]

All hail the great intelligence of the Canadian government.

 

That's right, out of all the species I threw in, I was approved for Solenopsis geminata from Florida

[ANTdrew]

All hail the great intelligence of the Canadian government.

That's right, out of all the species I threw in, I was approved for Solenopsis geminata from Florida

They’re obviously less of a danger than Colobopsis. Lol

[Canadian anter]

 

All hail the great intelligence of the Canadian government.

That's right, out of all the species I threw in, I was approved for Solenopsis geminata from Florida

They’re obviously less of a danger than Colobopsis. Lol

 

The justification is more or less "Well they've been in Canada in multiple cases via greenhouses and we haven't been [censored] up yet"

So, right now I'm testing species which are in greenhouses but have not yet been reported in Canada

[antsriondel]

I have Liometopum luctuosum in my area and I live in canada but I don't have any for sale right now, but I might have some in the spring so contact me then.

Edited by antsriondel, November 13 2021 - 10:34 AM.

[antsriondel]

would you be interested?