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[nate131415]

1. Location of collection - I found her floating in a swimming pool in Albany Oregon.  

2. Date of collection:  Mid September
3. Habitat of collection: In a neighborhood.  Lots of grass, shrubs, trees and pavement.  This is in NW Oregon.
4. Length: Apx 5mm, maybe a little less.
5. Coloration:  She is a red color, similar to the Pogonomyrmex's we have in the eastern Oregon desert.  
6. Distinguishing characteristics - none that I can see.
7. Anything else distinctive- none that I can see
8. Nest description: I don't know where the nest is.

9. Nuptial flight time and date:  I found her mid September, in the late afternoon.  I don't know how long she had been floating in the pool.  I did not see any flying ants.  

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Edited by nate131415, October 12 2022 - 10:12 PM.

[ReignofRage]

This is a Manica species, if you get a side profile picture of the peitoles then there could be further identification.

Edit: I didn’t realize how small this queen was, I concur with it being Stenamma

Edited by ReignofRage, October 13 2022 - 8:32 AM.

[ZTYguy]

I’d say Manica hunteri or Manica invidia just because they are the only red Manica species listed in antmaps under Oregon. Take my answer with a grain of salt though.

Edited by ZTYguy, October 12 2022 - 10:59 PM.

[ZTYguy]

These are photos of Manica hunteri if you would like to compare your queen with my hunch.

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[ReignofRage]

M. hunteri gynes have a spike that protrudes on the underside of the post petiole, which this queen lacks in the first picture - this would make it M. invidia. A better picture would only further confirm this.

[Ants_Dakota]

For the improvement of my IDing skills, which suck, how do you guys determine this is manica not myrmica

[OiledOlives]

I'm pretty certain it's Myrmica since Manica does not have propodeal spines

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[Ants_Dakota]

I'm pretty certain it's Myrmica since Manica does not have propodeal spines

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interesting

Edited by Ants_Dakota, October 13 2022 - 5:45 AM.

[Mettcollsuss]

It's Stenamma. Manica are much larger and don't have propodeal spines. It's not Myrmica either, look at the petiole, the anterior peduncle is too long.

[OiledOlives]

Why do I even bother looking at West Coast ID requests

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[Mettcollsuss]

Stenamma and Myrmica are both also on the east coast so

[Ants_Dakota]

It's Stenamma. Manica are much larger and don't have propodeal spines. It's not Myrmica either, look at the petiole, the anterior peduncle is too long.

i honestly did not even know that existed.