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Need help identifying this species

Started By jayhautz , Aug 15 2022 8:18 AM

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#1 Offline jayhautz - Posted August 15 2022 - 8:18 AM

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I’ve had no luck with photo ID apps. They keep telling me it’s winter ants but that doesn’t seem right. Need some help.

Found in northern VA mountains in early July (nuptial flight in that time). Nanitics are black and queen appears to be a darker brown. She is very skittish and so are the workers and the pupa have cocoons and develop in about 25-30 days. The queen is about 1 1/2 - 2 cm in length and the nanitics are 1 cm in length.

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Edited by jayhautz, August 15 2022 - 8:27 AM.

#2 Offline ColAnt735 - Posted August 15 2022 - 8:21 AM

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Formica species.Location?

Edited by ColAnt735, August 15 2022 - 9:10 AM.

"If an ant carries an object a hundred times it's weight,you can carry burdens many times your size.

#3 Offline FinWins - Posted August 15 2022 - 8:22 AM

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Could you tell us the size, and get better photos?

I keep: C. modoc, C. sansabeanus  :D, C. maritimus, Formica argentea, M. mexicanus  :D, Odontomachus brunneus :D, Pogonomyrmex californicus, Pogonomyrmex rugosus, 

 

#4 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 15 2022 - 8:22 AM

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The shape of the workers (especially the thorax) makes me think it might be lepisiota, assuming this is in europe of course.
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#5 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 15 2022 - 8:32 AM

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Looks like pallidefulva group Formica.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#6 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 15 2022 - 8:49 AM

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Oh yeah definitely pallidefulva group formica, probably F. incerta.
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#7 Offline FinWins - Posted August 15 2022 - 9:17 AM

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They seem to dark to be F. incerta, but they probably are in the pallidefulva group.

I keep: C. modoc, C. sansabeanus  :D, C. maritimus, Formica argentea, M. mexicanus  :D, Odontomachus brunneus :D, Pogonomyrmex californicus, Pogonomyrmex rugosus, 

 

#8 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted August 15 2022 - 11:13 AM

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They seem to dark to be F. incerta, but they probably are in the pallidefulva group.

incerta and pallidefulva are very variable in color


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#9 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 15 2022 - 11:55 AM

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Yeah the incerta here in Canada are very dark, which is why I assumed it was incerta.

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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#10 Offline FinWins - Posted August 15 2022 - 12:00 PM

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Ok, because when I looked it up most of the incerta were orange, but that must just be that variant.

I keep: C. modoc, C. sansabeanus  :D, C. maritimus, Formica argentea, M. mexicanus  :D, Odontomachus brunneus :D, Pogonomyrmex californicus, Pogonomyrmex rugosus, 

 

#11 Offline AntsTopia - Posted August 16 2022 - 8:53 AM

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It could be Formica Pacifia. They like to hang out in the west. But definitely Formica.
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Camponotus castaneus | 20-25 workers
Tetramorium Immigrans | 1,000+ workers (yes I gave them a brood boost don’t be salty!)
Aphaenogaster Rudis | 16 workers
Pheidole bicarinata | 50-60 workers

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