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Lasius worker ID Margate, Fl

Started By AntsTopia , Aug 11 2022 8:20 AM
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Best Answer Aaron567 , August 11 2022 - 9:12 PM

This would be Lasius americanus. I know there was someone a couple of years ago who claimed to have found a queen of this species in southeastern Florida, pretty sure it was Broward county just like this. I did not believe them because it seems impossible; even up in northwest Florida where I am, Lasius is only found in unusual environments that get quite cold and are more "un-Florida-like." So for this species to have an actual population in urban southeast Florida would be almost comparable to polar bears roaming the suburbs of New Jersey. It's certainly wacky, and I wonder if it's more likely that this is some kind of introduced southern European species that is suited to more mild climates.... something that I think ought to be investigated.

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#1 Offline AntsTopia - Posted August 11 2022 - 8:20 AM

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Possible species: Lasius Neoniger
Cast: worker
Location: Margrate, FL
Description: shiny black looking Laius
Where: I found a Lasius colony with brood and took some brood and one cocoon was hatched and I want to know what species of Lasius it is. They were underneath a rock under a palm tree. They are fast but have no color to them. They look like neoniger but I want to know for sure. Posting pictures now.
Keeper of:
Camponotus castaneus | 20-25 workers
Tetramorium Immigrans | 1,000+ workers (yes I gave them a brood boost don’t be salty!)
Aphaenogaster Rudis | 16 workers
Pheidole bicarinata | 50-60 workers

Ants are just better.

#2 Offline AntsTopia - Posted August 11 2022 - 8:23 AM

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Keeper of:
Camponotus castaneus | 20-25 workers
Tetramorium Immigrans | 1,000+ workers (yes I gave them a brood boost don’t be salty!)
Aphaenogaster Rudis | 16 workers
Pheidole bicarinata | 50-60 workers

Ants are just better.

#3 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 11 2022 - 8:35 AM

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Many people here don’t like clicking outside links, especially ones which you have to download. Try inserting the photos directly into the forum.
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#4 Offline Aaron567 - Posted August 11 2022 - 8:36 AM

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The photo links don't work. Just considering your location, however, it's pretty much guaranteed that they aren't a Lasius species.


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#5 Offline AntsTopia - Posted August 11 2022 - 9:56 AM

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It does not allow me too. Drive is the only way. 


Edited by AntsTopia, August 11 2022 - 9:57 AM.

Keeper of:
Camponotus castaneus | 20-25 workers
Tetramorium Immigrans | 1,000+ workers (yes I gave them a brood boost don’t be salty!)
Aphaenogaster Rudis | 16 workers
Pheidole bicarinata | 50-60 workers

Ants are just better.

#6 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 11 2022 - 10:03 AM

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I use drive links and they imbed just fine. Try using imgur, or make sure its set to "everyone with the link can view".

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#7 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted August 11 2022 - 10:07 AM

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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#8 Offline AntsTopia - Posted August 11 2022 - 2:59 PM

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Keeper of:
Camponotus castaneus | 20-25 workers
Tetramorium Immigrans | 1,000+ workers (yes I gave them a brood boost don’t be salty!)
Aphaenogaster Rudis | 16 workers
Pheidole bicarinata | 50-60 workers

Ants are just better.

#9 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 11 2022 - 3:59 PM

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That does actually look like Lasius. Amazing find, as they are EXTREMELY rare in Florida.

Edited by Manitobant, August 12 2022 - 3:46 AM.

My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#10 Offline AntsTopia - Posted August 11 2022 - 7:59 PM

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this is my first sighting of a established lasius colony. I probably should not have taken brood from them then lol. They are around the size of a tetramorium worker. Do you guys indeed think they neoniger?
Keeper of:
Camponotus castaneus | 20-25 workers
Tetramorium Immigrans | 1,000+ workers (yes I gave them a brood boost don’t be salty!)
Aphaenogaster Rudis | 16 workers
Pheidole bicarinata | 50-60 workers

Ants are just better.

#11 Offline Aaron567 - Posted August 11 2022 - 9:12 PM   Best Answer

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This would be Lasius americanus. I know there was someone a couple of years ago who claimed to have found a queen of this species in southeastern Florida, pretty sure it was Broward county just like this. I did not believe them because it seems impossible; even up in northwest Florida where I am, Lasius is only found in unusual environments that get quite cold and are more "un-Florida-like." So for this species to have an actual population in urban southeast Florida would be almost comparable to polar bears roaming the suburbs of New Jersey. It's certainly wacky, and I wonder if it's more likely that this is some kind of introduced southern European species that is suited to more mild climates.... something that I think ought to be investigated.


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#12 Offline AntsTopia - Posted August 12 2022 - 5:37 AM

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Ok that settles it then. After looking at more photos the workers are of L. Americanus. Now I got to find a queen of that species.
Keeper of:
Camponotus castaneus | 20-25 workers
Tetramorium Immigrans | 1,000+ workers (yes I gave them a brood boost don’t be salty!)
Aphaenogaster Rudis | 16 workers
Pheidole bicarinata | 50-60 workers

Ants are just better.
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