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How do your outworlds smell?


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#1 Offline futurebird - Posted July 9 2022 - 3:14 PM

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When I was first getting into ants I was worried they might smell. 
The only things that smells are feeder crickets. Particularly if you have any dead bodies in there. Why do dead crickets stink so badly. I was sitting at my desk and kept smelling something. Turned out it was ONE dead cricket at the bottom of my wastebasket. 

Anyway. I tend to sniff the outworlds just to check that I've gotten all the trash. Here is what I've found.

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis - Basically no smell except a very faint hint of something like formic acid and a kind of grain smell that's rather nice. That might be because they were mad that I took the lid off and were doing their "boiling display" where they run around all angry because something has disturbed them. 

Formica Subsericea, Camponotus chromaides, Camponotus pennslyvanicus - Sand and nothing smell

Camponotus nicoborensis - kinda sweet sugar smell, I think they flooded their sugar feeder once and it's soaked into the sand. I should replace the sand. 

Camponotus discolor - same faint sugar smell. Another case of needing to clean their sand. 

Lasius neoniger - They were odorless, but now there is a stink in their outworld. I clean up their trash often... I may need to swap out a fresh outworld and transfer them to do a deep clean. I suspect they are burying dead crickets ... it's that same smell but not as strong. I have not found a protein for them where they don't have leftovers. They just eat a little of everything and don't always keep a clear trash pile. Maybe it's just hard for them since they are so small. 

Any tips for keeping lasius outworlds tidy? They love to cover everything in sand... I hate to force them to live on plaster with just a sprinkle of sand ... but it might be needed since they have hidden all kinds of horrors under the sand... and they made a strange little nest where the sugar water spilled. Not looking forward to trying to herd them...


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#2 Offline Leptomyrmx - Posted July 9 2022 - 3:27 PM

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At one point when I gave my Pheidole too many chia seeds and went away for a day or two their outworld started to smell kinda... fruity? Sort of like freeze-dried hops.

(my dad homebrews beer which is why I know what that smells like)

All my other outworlds just smell like the clay-based substrate I put in them. (so just kinda like dirt)


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Colonies: Camponotus humilior 1w, Opisthopsis rufithorax 11w, Aphaenogaster longiceps ~5w, Pheidole sp. ~235w ~15m, Iridomyrmex sp. 2q 1w, Brachyponera lutea 6w, Crematogaster sp. ~20w, Podomyrma sp. 1w

Queens: Polyrhachis cf. robinsoni, Polyrhachis (Campomyrma) sp. (likely infertile)

Previously Kept: Colobopsis gasseri, Technomyrmex sp., Rhytidoponera victorae, Nylanderia cf. rosae, Myrmecia brevinoda/forficata, Polyrhachis australis, Solenopsis/Monomorium

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#3 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 9 2022 - 4:40 PM

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My mega Crematogaster colony has filled one of their outworlds with frass. It is not a pleasant odor.
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#4 Offline FloridaAnts - Posted July 9 2022 - 7:42 PM

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My Odontomachus always, no matter how clean or new the sand is, smell a sour smell, and it never goes away. Even wild colonies have a light scent of it. It doesn’t smell unless you actually smell the outworld, which I have never done but today.

My Camponotus smell like baby powder from the powder I use as a barrier :)
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#5 Offline ConcordAntman - Posted July 10 2022 - 4:06 PM

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All my Camponoti colonies have a somewhat fruity odor but I think it’s because I always add a slice of a Granny Smith apple to the Dubia roaches and crickets I use for feeder insects. 


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#6 Offline futurebird - Posted July 10 2022 - 4:40 PM

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I solved the stinky Lasius issue. Their outworld didn't have enough ventilation. It's this one:

https://www.wakooshi...cts/s4-outworld

I replaced the lid with a mesh cover that I made to fit with some plexiglass and now the smell is gone! 

Also, fewer ants are loitering outside, which I also like. I hate it when they treat the nest and outworld like they are the same. 


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#7 Offline antscientist - Posted July 10 2022 - 4:58 PM

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My Camponotus ant outworld smells sorta like dried honey mixed with sand. And it'a probably because I feed then honey, and their outworld is full with sand. :D


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#8 Offline aznphenom - Posted July 11 2022 - 5:17 AM

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My mega Crematogaster colony has filled one of their outworlds with frass. It is not a pleasant odor.

Oh. Is that what that is? I keep forgetting that ant also poop. Mine also does that. Theyve been mixing it with the liquid feeder. I somehow lost the screen to my mage byformica liquid feeder and they seem to like stuffing into it. I have switch the feeders. I am putting water in the screen-less feeder and nectar in the feeder with a screen.

 

How big is your crema colony. They grow so fast. I want to give them a bigger outworld. They already have a solid size one but they love foraging.


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Wants (Please reach out if you have them for sale if you’re in the US): Acromyrmex Sp., Atta Sp., Cephalotes Sp., Myrmecocystus Sp (Prefer Mexicanus), Odontomachus Sp. (Prefer Desertorum), Pachycondyla Sp., Pheidole Sp (Prefer Rhea. The bigger the better. Not the tiny bicarinata), Pogonomyrmex Sp (Prefer Badius)., Pseudomyrmex Sp. (Prefer the cute yellow ones)

 


#9 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 11 2022 - 6:07 AM

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My mega Crematogaster colony has filled one of their outworlds with frass. It is not a pleasant odor.

Oh. Is that what that is? I keep forgetting that ant also poop. Mine also does that. Theyve been mixing it with the liquid feeder. I somehow lost the screen to my mage byformica liquid feeder and they seem to like stuffing into it. I have switch the feeders. I am putting water in the screen-less feeder and nectar in the feeder with a screen.

How big is your crema colony. They grow so fast. I want to give them a bigger outworld. They already have a solid size one but they love foraging.
Well, they’re orphaned now, so numbers are dwindling. They still have 1,000 or so workers and new reproductives. At their highpoint, they probably had 6-7K.
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#10 Offline aznphenom - Posted July 11 2022 - 6:12 AM

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Well, they’re orphaned now, so numbers are dwindling. They still have 1,000 or so workers and new reproductives. At their highpoint, they probably had 6-7K.

 

 

 

Youre just gonna let them live out their lives? Also, year 3? queen just randomly died? I want to say mine is like 500-1000 at best. I can't imagine 7k. They are such a pain to contain. 


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Keeps: Camponotus, Tetra
 

Wants (Please reach out if you have them for sale if you’re in the US): Acromyrmex Sp., Atta Sp., Cephalotes Sp., Myrmecocystus Sp (Prefer Mexicanus), Odontomachus Sp. (Prefer Desertorum), Pachycondyla Sp., Pheidole Sp (Prefer Rhea. The bigger the better. Not the tiny bicarinata), Pogonomyrmex Sp (Prefer Badius)., Pseudomyrmex Sp. (Prefer the cute yellow ones)

 





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