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Tupelo,MS - 2022/04/11


Best Answer NickAnter , April 11 2022 - 7:10 PM

Looks like picea or rudis.

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#1 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted April 11 2022 - 5:03 PM

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1. Tupelo, MS
2. 2022/04/11
3. Hardwrood Tree Base
4. 7mm
5. Orange/Brown 
6. N/A
7. N/A
8. Found in Hardwood Root base. Custom trap of leaf litter and roots. Clear, check, and reset daily

9. N/A

 

Aphaenagastor for sure. Unknown specifics and best founding options.

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#2 Offline ANTdrew - Posted April 11 2022 - 5:26 PM

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Founding is fully claustral, standard test tube will be perfect. I defer to the ID masters on here, though.
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#3 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted April 11 2022 - 5:44 PM

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Founding is fully claustral, standard test tube will be perfect. I defer to the ID masters on here, though.

 

Thanks! I already have her in a tube and dark. I am not good at ID on these aphaenagasters. Aphaenogaster Tennesseensis is about the only one I kinda can ID.



#4 Offline NickAnter - Posted April 11 2022 - 7:10 PM   Best Answer

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Looks like picea or rudis.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#5 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted April 12 2022 - 5:09 PM

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Looks like picea or rudis.

Yeah I am thinking Picea. I looked at another I have and she is clearly Rudis. So I think this is it. Now I hope those spots on her back are sand from capture and not mites.



#6 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted April 12 2022 - 6:04 PM

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Are you able to get a photo that shows the color of the antennae well? In picea, the last 4 segments of the antenna are lighter in color -- for example. My picea queen likes to hide, but from what I remember she doesn't really look like this queen. Considering how much of a mess the fulva-rudis-texana complex is, it's possible that it's also something undescribed.


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#7 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted April 12 2022 - 6:27 PM

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Are you able to get a photo that shows the color of the antennae well? In picea, the last 4 segments of the antenna are lighter in color -- for example. My picea queen likes to hide, but from what I remember she doesn't really look like this queen. Considering how much of a mess the fulva-rudis-texana complex is, it's possible that it's also something undescribed.

Sadly I am a horrible with photos. I am working on getting better with these.I have attached the best I was able to do. This queen keeps running around and I cannot get a good light and still photo.

 

It looks like the ends are lighter in color. Also any ideas on those white/clear patches on the thorax.

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#8 Offline madbiologist - Posted April 13 2022 - 9:26 AM

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Is she entirely black, or is that just the pictures? Aphaenogaster fulva can often resemble picea in poor lighting.


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#9 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted April 13 2022 - 10:57 AM

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Is she entirely black, or is that just the pictures? Aphaenogaster fulva can often resemble picea in poor lighting.

She has brown on her gaster legs and it appears antennae. I don't se any hints of reddish on her. Just slight brownish areas.



#10 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted April 13 2022 - 11:21 AM

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Probably "picea" then. Picea is a mess like the rest of the fulva-rudis-texana group, so the fact that she doesn't look like mine might not mean much.

#11 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted April 13 2022 - 11:41 AM

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Probably "picea" then. Picea is a mess like the rest of the fulva-rudis-texana group, so the fact that she doesn't look like mine might not mean much.

I have attached pic of my other 2 aphaenogaster queens and they looks quite different. One has a lot more red to her and the other has more light brown on her gaster. To be fair though, I haven't IDd either of those either.

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#12 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 13 2022 - 12:36 PM

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Both of the above queens look like A. lamellidens to me.


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#13 Offline madbiologist - Posted April 13 2022 - 1:19 PM

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Is she entirely black, or is that just the pictures? Aphaenogaster fulva can often resemble picea in poor lighting.

She has brown on her gaster legs and it appears antennae. I don't se any hints of reddish on her. Just slight brownish areas.
If her gaster has coloration, I think it could be a dark fulva.

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