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mystery queen?

Started By antsriondel , Apr 1 2022 7:04 AM
ants queen identification

Best Answer NicholasP , April 3 2022 - 10:35 PM

I have to disagree. It is certainly possible it is L. neoniger but to me it looks more like L. americanus.

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#1 Offline antsriondel - Posted April 1 2022 - 7:04 AM

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Ok so I caught this queen a few days ago and I was just wondering if anyone knows the exact species.Every time I have tried to found this species they just randomly die.If anyone knows what species this is that would help a lot.

 

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#2 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted April 1 2022 - 7:07 AM

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Location? Looks like Lasius (Lasius).
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#3 Offline antsriondel - Posted April 1 2022 - 7:12 AM

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Location? Looks like Lasius (Lasius).

Kootenay Lake British Columbia canada. And yeah I was thinking it is lasius.


#4 Offline SYUTEO - Posted April 1 2022 - 7:37 AM

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It indeed looks like Lasius to me.


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#5 Offline NicholasP - Posted April 1 2022 - 9:08 AM

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It's 100% Lasius and I'm almost 100% certain that it's Lasius americanus but they shouldn't be flying right now. Did you find it just walking around or was it under a rock?


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#6 Offline antsriondel - Posted April 1 2022 - 9:16 AM

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It's 100% Lasius and I'm almost 100% certain that it's Lasius americanus but they shouldn't be flying right now. Did you find it just walking around or was it under a rock?

it was under a rock


#7 Offline ColAnt735 - Posted April 1 2022 - 9:18 AM

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It's 100% Lasius and I'm almost 100% certain that it's Lasius americanus but they shouldn't be flying right now. Did you find it just walking around or was it under a rock?

it was under a rock

 

She probably flew last season and has just woken up from diapause.


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#8 Offline antsriondel - Posted April 1 2022 - 9:53 AM

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It's 100% Lasius and I'm almost 100% certain that it's Lasius americanus but they shouldn't be flying right now. Did you find it just walking around or was it under a rock?

it was under a rock

 

She probably flew last season and has just woken up from diapause.

 

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#9 Offline Manitobant - Posted April 1 2022 - 10:07 AM

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There’s no way this is myrmecocystus testaceus right? Its somewhat close to where they are recorded.
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#10 Offline Somethinghmm - Posted April 1 2022 - 10:45 AM

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There’s no way this is myrmecocystus testaceus right? Its somewhat close to where they are recorded.

I don't think so. The head shape looks off for M. testaceus


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#11 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted April 1 2022 - 6:56 PM

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Location? Looks like Lasius (Lasius).

I second this. Although for Lasius individual species doesn't particularly matter in terms of care, and I do agree she's probably not Myrmecocystus. But I guess you can be surprised if she ends up getting repletes.


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#13 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted April 2 2022 - 12:38 PM

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There’s no way this is myrmecocystus testaceus right? Its somewhat close to where they are recorded.

It's not. Myrmecocystus have larger eyes closer to the back of the head.


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#14 Offline antsriondel - Posted April 3 2022 - 4:53 PM

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does anyone know the exact species?


#15 Offline United-Ants - Posted April 3 2022 - 8:31 PM

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I would say lasius cf neoniger

#16 Offline NicholasP - Posted April 3 2022 - 10:35 PM   Best Answer

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I have to disagree. It is certainly possible it is L. neoniger but to me it looks more like L. americanus.


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#17 Offline ColAnt735 - Posted April 4 2022 - 5:49 AM

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I agree with NicholasP this looks like Lasius americanus due to the fact that there seems to be a lack of hair on the legs.


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"If an ant carries an object a hundred times it's weight,you can carry burdens many times your size.

#18 Offline antsriondel - Posted April 4 2022 - 3:27 PM

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I have to disagree. It is certainly possible it is L. neoniger but to me it looks more like L. americanus.

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