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#161 Offline NicholasP - Posted March 19 2022 - 5:47 PM

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They will tolerate each other during founding, then they will start killing each other when workers arrive.

Prenolepis are Polygynous. At least down here in AZ they are. In Mount Lemmon I found a colony with at least 5 queens.


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They will tolerate each other during founding, then they will start killing each other when workers arrive.

Prenolepis are Polygynous. At least down here in AZ they are. In Mount Lemmon I found a colony with at least 5 queens.

I wonder if they started together, all queens but one got killed, and then alates mated in the nest? Would be interesting to find out…

#163 Online ANTdrew - Posted March 20 2022 - 8:23 AM

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They will tolerate each other during founding, then they will start killing each other when workers arrive.

Prenolepis are Polygynous. At least down here in AZ they are. In Mount Lemmon I found a colony with at least 5 queens.
I wonder if they started together, all queens but one got killed, and then alates mated in the nest? Would be interesting to find out…
That experiment would take four years or so, much longer than most youngsters interest in ants lasts.
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#164 Offline azzaaazzzz00 - Posted March 20 2022 - 11:51 AM

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Yayyy, got four more queens, are Prenolepis fully claustral?

Wow. I never find those things. Like ever.

 

I think the temperatures here are slightly colder than that of where you live, Prenolepis Imparis prefer cold weather, so I guess that's why. Can't wait till Camponotus fly, love that genus. When the queens do get workers, how much should I sell them for?


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#165 Offline ColAnt735 - Posted March 20 2022 - 12:52 PM

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Yayyy, got four more queens, are Prenolepis fully claustral?

Wow. I never find those things. Like ever.

 

I think the temperatures here are slightly colder than that of where you live, Prenolepis Imparis prefer cold weather, so I guess that's why. Can't wait till Camponotus fly, love that genus. When the queens do get workers, how much should I sell them for?

 

Prenolepis imparis are native to Virginia so ANTdrew should be able to find them ( I hope you do ANTdrew these ants look very cool especially their repletes). I would sell the Prenolepis imparis queens with workers for thirty dollars.


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#166 Online ANTdrew - Posted March 20 2022 - 5:58 PM

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Oh, the colonies are all over here in Virginia. I just never find queens, probably because I’m working. By the time I get out looking at 4:00, they’re long gone under the leaf litter.

Sell Camponotus for $60 minimum on GAN. That’s the only genus most customers care about. Because “big ants.”

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#167 Offline OiledOlives - Posted March 21 2022 - 7:45 AM

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Prenolepis imparis are native to Virginia so ANTdrew should be able to find them ( I hope you do ANTdrew these ants look very cool especially their repletes). I would sell the Prenolepis imparis queens with workers for thirty dollars.

Just because a species is native to a state does not mean that someone should be able to find them. Discothyrea testacea, Pseudomyrmex pallidus, and Aphaenogaster floridana are all native to Virginia, but I have never seen any keeper in Virginia find them. Also, Prenolepis imparis might look cool, but they get boring quickly and are not fun to keep. 
 

Oh, the colonies are all over here in Virginia. I just never find queens, probably because I’m working. By the time I get out looking at 4:00, they’re long gone under the leaf litter.

Sell Camponotus for $60 minimum on GAN. That’s the only genus most customers care about. Because “big ants.”

30 is generally the standard for founding colonies of Camponotus subgenus on the East Coast. If I sold them for more it would be against my morals.



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Prenolepis imparis are native to Virginia so ANTdrew should be able to find them ( I hope you do ANTdrew these ants look very cool especially their repletes). I would sell the Prenolepis imparis queens with workers for thirty dollars.

Just because a species is native to a state does not mean that someone should be able to find them. Discothyrea testacea, Pseudomyrmex pallidus, and Aphaenogaster floridana are all native to Virginia, but I have never seen any keeper in Virginia find them. Also, Prenolepis imparis might look cool, but they get boring quickly and are not fun to keep. 
 

Oh, the colonies are all over here in Virginia. I just never find queens, probably because I’m working. By the time I get out looking at 4:00, they’re long gone under the leaf litter.
Sell Camponotus for $60 minimum on GAN. That’s the only genus most customers care about. Because “big ants.”

30 is generally the standard for founding colonies of Camponotus subgenus on the East Coast. If I sold them for more it would be against my morals.

. I have heard some people buy ants not for the hobby, but to feed to reptiles… depends who your client is and why they are buying them

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$30 is what I charge on here. I have totally different pricing on GAN where prices are way inflated. I also trust people’s care for the colonies on here way more than GAN, so I help folks out

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#170 Offline azzaaazzzz00 - Posted March 21 2022 - 1:37 PM

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Prenolepis imparis are native to Virginia so ANTdrew should be able to find them ( I hope you do ANTdrew these ants look very cool especially their repletes). I would sell the Prenolepis imparis queens with workers for thirty dollars.

Just because a species is native to a state does not mean that someone should be able to find them. Discothyrea testacea, Pseudomyrmex pallidus, and Aphaenogaster floridana are all native to Virginia, but I have never seen any keeper in Virginia find them. Also, Prenolepis imparis might look cool, but they get boring quickly and are not fun to keep. 
 

Oh, the colonies are all over here in Virginia. I just never find queens, probably because I’m working. By the time I get out looking at 4:00, they’re long gone under the leaf litter.

Sell Camponotus for $60 minimum on GAN. That’s the only genus most customers care about. Because “big ants.”

30 is generally the standard for founding colonies of Camponotus subgenus on the East Coast. If I sold them for more it would be against my moral

Prenolepis Imparis are pretty boring but hope someone buys them.

 

$30 is what I charge on here. I have totally different pricing on GAN where prices are way inflated. I also trust people’s care for the colonies on here way more than GAN, so I help folks out

I'll charge $30 for Prenolepis and smaller species and like $50 for lager ones. Also how do you change the price of your colonies? Also because Prenolepis Imparis likes cool/cold temperatures, is there a way to keep the cool in the heat of the summer?


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#171 Online ANTdrew - Posted March 21 2022 - 3:25 PM

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If you mean on GAN, just edit your page to update prices. Typical air conditioning should be plenty cool enough.
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#172 Offline azzaaazzzz00 - Posted March 21 2022 - 4:12 PM

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Ok thanks and uhhh...there's no air conditioning in my garage. On the Prenolepis Imparis care sheet it says that the workers only go foraging in the winter, but I caught the queen when winter just ended, if the queen gets workers will they forage even if it's summer already?


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#173 Offline bmb1bee - Posted March 21 2022 - 4:41 PM

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Prenolepis imparis are native to Virginia so ANTdrew should be able to find them ( I hope you do ANTdrew these ants look very cool especially their repletes). I would sell the Prenolepis imparis queens with workers for thirty dollars.

Just because a species is native to a state does not mean that someone should be able to find them. Discothyrea testacea, Pseudomyrmex pallidus, and Aphaenogaster floridana are all native to Virginia, but I have never seen any keeper in Virginia find them. Also, Prenolepis imparis might look cool, but they get boring quickly and are not fun to keep. 
 

Oh, the colonies are all over here in Virginia. I just never find queens, probably because I’m working. By the time I get out looking at 4:00, they’re long gone under the leaf litter.

Sell Camponotus for $60 minimum on GAN. That’s the only genus most customers care about. Because “big ants.”

30 is generally the standard for founding colonies of Camponotus subgenus on the East Coast. If I sold them for more it would be against my moral

Prenolepis Imparis are pretty boring but hope someone buys them.

 

$30 is what I charge on here. I have totally different pricing on GAN where prices are way inflated. I also trust people’s care for the colonies on here way more than GAN, so I help folks out

I'll charge $30 for Prenolepis and smaller species and like $50 for lager ones. Also how do you change the price of your colonies? Also because Prenolepis Imparis likes cool/cold temperatures, is there a way to keep the cool in the heat of the summer?

 

I'd say $20 or less on Prenolepis, since they're pretty common, plus they grow super slowly (assuming the buyer knows anything about these).


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#174 Offline OiledOlives - Posted March 22 2022 - 5:56 AM

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Ok thanks and uhhh...there's no air conditioning in my garage. On the Prenolepis Imparis care sheet it says that the workers only go foraging in the winter, but I caught the queen when winter just ended, if the queen gets workers will they forage even if it's summer already?

Prenolepis imparis go through diapause and estivation, so they will be inactive for half of the year. You can still feed them during both periods, but they should go through both.



#175 Offline azzaaazzzz00 - Posted March 24 2022 - 3:55 PM

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Once I give the ants an outworld, would steel mesh be enough to stop invasions from other ants and/or mites?


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Other ants, yes. Mites, no.
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#177 Offline azzaaazzzz00 - Posted March 24 2022 - 5:14 PM

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Is there anything to keep out mites?


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#178 Online ANTdrew - Posted March 24 2022 - 5:30 PM

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Flash boil any feeder insects beforehand.
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#179 Offline UtahAnts - Posted March 24 2022 - 6:03 PM

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I'm assuming you're talking about grain mites. Isolating colonies with an infestation and then moving them into a new formicarium through a nest to nest port is the best way to reduce mite numbers with no harm to the ants. Removing uneaten food from the outworld during every feeding will also help.


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#180 Offline azzaaazzzz00 - Posted March 26 2022 - 1:53 PM

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I reread the thread for the cheap outworld (Thanks ANTdrew), I realized that If I covered the top with steel mesh, I wouldn't have an opening for feeding. If I left an opening that's where the outworld would be vulnerable to invasions. What do I do about that?


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