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Is there any ways that I can detect pheromone of ants

Started By byungkyulee , Jan 27 2022 6:55 PM

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#1 Offline byungkyulee - Posted January 27 2022 - 6:55 PM

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I would like to know if there is some sort of micro sensor that I can attach in the foraging area and detect the chemical pheromone signal of ants?


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#2 Offline Leptomyrmx - Posted January 27 2022 - 7:04 PM

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Not yet, (I don't think) but that would be awesome! All ants have very different pheromones, so there'd have to be one for each species. But I'm not even sure if humans have the technology do to something like that yet.

You could make a queen tracker with that too- infinite ants and money!


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My Ants:

Colonies: Camponotus humilior 1w, Opisthopsis rufithorax 11w, Aphaenogaster longiceps ~5w, Pheidole sp. ~235w ~15m, Iridomyrmex sp. 2q 1w, Brachyponera lutea 6w, Crematogaster sp. ~20w, Podomyrma sp. 1w

Queens: Polyrhachis cf. robinsoni, Polyrhachis (Campomyrma) sp. (likely infertile)

Previously Kept: Colobopsis gasseri, Technomyrmex sp., Rhytidoponera victorae, Nylanderia cf. rosae, Myrmecia brevinoda/forficata, Polyrhachis australis, Solenopsis/Monomorium

Key: Q = Queen, W = Worker, M = Major

Youtube Channel: Ants of Sydney - YouTube

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#3 Offline eea - Posted January 28 2022 - 4:31 PM

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it would be cool if you can like open an app on your phone and it shows pheromone trails


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#4 Offline antsriondel - Posted January 28 2022 - 4:39 PM

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it would be cool if you can like open an app on your phone and it shows pheromone trails

yeah, that would be awesome.


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#5 Offline Zeiss - Posted January 28 2022 - 4:49 PM

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No, there is nothing available to do that at least offered to the general public.


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#6 Offline Guest_SolenopsisKeeper_* - Posted January 30 2022 - 7:29 AM

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I would like to know if there is some sort of micro sensor that I can attach in the foraging area and detect the chemical pheromone signal of ants?

if that was a thing, you could tell if certain queens are fertile and how many times they mated.
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#7 Offline futurebird - Posted January 30 2022 - 8:52 PM

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I wonder if there could at least be "test strips" for various pheromones?  Formic acid isn't exactly a pheromone, but it's used in communication and warfare... how do PH strips used for soil testing react to it? How long does it last in the soil and on rocks and plants in a outworld?

 

At least you could know if they are freaking out. 


Second thought... what about training a dog or other expert smelling animal to detect such things? Could help with hunting for queens...


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#8 Offline Skwiggledork - Posted January 30 2022 - 11:05 PM

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I Keep trying to find info on what pheromones ants use to decide to relocate nests. Figure out a way to manufacture those pheromones and just make trails from colonies you find into formicariums and wait for them to move in. XD 


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#9 Offline byungkyulee - Posted February 9 2022 - 2:10 PM

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I would like to know if there is some sort of micro sensor that I can attach in the foraging area and detect the chemical pheromone signal of ants?

if that was a thing, you could tell if certain queens are fertile and how many times they mated.

 

 

How does that "telling if certain queens are fertile or not or how many times they mated" related to sensing their pheromone signals? I want to know what is the connection between those two.


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I would like to know if there is some sort of micro sensor that I can attach in the foraging area and detect the chemical pheromone signal of ants?

if that was a thing, you could tell if certain queens are fertile and how many times they mated.

How does that "telling if certain queens are fertile or not or how many times they mated" related to sensing their pheromone signals? I want to know what is the connection between those two.
It’s all just pure conjecture.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC6921000/

 

A place to start reading


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#12 Offline Guest_SolenopsisKeeper_* - Posted February 21 2022 - 2:52 PM

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I would like to know if there is some sort of micro sensor that I can attach in the foraging area and detect the chemical pheromone signal of ants?

if that was a thing, you could tell if certain queens are fertile and how many times they mated.
 
How does that "telling if certain queens are fertile or not or how many times they mated" related to sensing their pheromone signals? I want to know what is the connection between those two.

In some species, queens will have a “fertility pheromone” which prevents the workers from laying haploid eggs, or diploid eggs in gamergate species.

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Not yet, (I don't think) but that would be awesome! All ants have very different pheromones, so there'd have to be one for each species. But I'm not even sure if humans have the technology do to something like that yet.
You could make a queen tracker with that too- infinite ants and money!


Theoretically, you would only get infinite money if you invented it and didn’t share it to the public, or you invented it and sold the idea. What we should try, is making ants lay certain pheromones and see what checmicals react to it.

#14 Offline Leptomyrmx - Posted February 21 2022 - 11:14 PM

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Not yet, (I don't think) but that would be awesome! All ants have very different pheromones, so there'd have to be one for each species. But I'm not even sure if humans have the technology do to something like that yet.
You could make a queen tracker with that too- infinite ants and money!


Theoretically, you would only get infinite money if you invented it and didn’t share it to the public, or you invented it and sold the idea. What we should try, is making ants lay certain pheromones and see what checmicals react to it.

 

I was half joking.


My Ants:

Colonies: Camponotus humilior 1w, Opisthopsis rufithorax 11w, Aphaenogaster longiceps ~5w, Pheidole sp. ~235w ~15m, Iridomyrmex sp. 2q 1w, Brachyponera lutea 6w, Crematogaster sp. ~20w, Podomyrma sp. 1w

Queens: Polyrhachis cf. robinsoni, Polyrhachis (Campomyrma) sp. (likely infertile)

Previously Kept: Colobopsis gasseri, Technomyrmex sp., Rhytidoponera victorae, Nylanderia cf. rosae, Myrmecia brevinoda/forficata, Polyrhachis australis, Solenopsis/Monomorium

Key: Q = Queen, W = Worker, M = Major

Youtube Channel: Ants of Sydney - YouTube

Patreon (for YouTube channel): https://www.patreon.com/antsofsydney

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