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Moving and Feeding C. novaeboracensis


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#1 Offline cmaccionaodha - Posted January 23 2022 - 7:20 PM

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Hello everyone! Look I posted correctly in the right forum
The fella who sold me my C. novaeboracensis colony took great care of them, but now they’re mine and the test tube I got them in is pretty moldy and gross, so I’m trying to move them into a fresh clean test tube.
How hard are they to relocate? There are 5 workers, about 10 pupae, and likely 10-15 larvae and eggs. I have them hooked to an AC test tube portal and a fresh tube is connected, but they seem not to move at all beyond collecting honey from the portal. Does anyone have experience moving such a small group of them?
Also: they eat plenty of honey, but I’ve tried a few protein sources that they haven’t taken (fish flakes, pellets, young isopods). Can anyone suggest a better protein source they’ll be more likely to take? I’ve seen how to raise flightless fruit flies so I’m open to starting a colony.
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#2 Offline UtahAnts - Posted January 23 2022 - 7:32 PM

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The colonies I used to have were very stubborn as well when it came to moving them. The trick is just to be patient, the ants are usually nocturnal, so you don't often see workers foraging until a larger colony size is reached. If you put a new test tube in their vicinity, the colony should move in within a week or so.

As for protien, crickets, fruitflys, mealworms (and other grubs) are the way to go with C. novaeboracensis.


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#3 Offline cmaccionaodha - Posted January 23 2022 - 7:39 PM

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I’ll leave their gross occupied test tube uncovered then. I’m also getting a cable heater soon so I’ll connect that to the fresh TT to further entice them.


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#4 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 24 2022 - 3:48 AM

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Direct sunlight can get stubborn ants moving fast, but it’s not the best time of year for that. No harm would come to the colony if you carefully shook them out into a new outworld with a new tube to move into.
Mealworms, crickets, dubia roaches, and fruit flies are standard feeders. A lot of ants ignore isopods for whatever reason. Keep in mind, feeders don’t need to be kept alive. You can freeze them fresh to feed later.
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#5 Offline TacticalHandleGaming - Posted January 24 2022 - 5:44 AM

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My Camponotus novaeboracensis colony was pretty easy to move. I just put heat on their new home, and covered it. Then aimed light at their test tube. I did have to dump a single worker into the foraging area, but that was it.


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#6 Offline Manitobant - Posted January 24 2022 - 8:55 AM

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Camponotus are notoriously stubborn when it comes to moving tubes, so i would just dump them if i were you. Basically tape the two tubes together, put the tube they are in upside down and lightly smack the side of it so all the ants fall into the new tube.
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#7 Offline cmaccionaodha - Posted January 25 2022 - 2:24 PM

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Update! I did end up dumping them into their TT portal and they moved into the clean tube immediately. And today I fed them a mealworm for the first time which they attacked before it even stopped squirming (as I’d pre-killed it). So hopefully the protein meal will help get them going a little more strongly


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