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#1 Offline William. T - Posted July 9 2015 - 3:53 PM

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I have experimented with the use of salt/sand substrate - yes, salt, in my outworld. Of course, I have done it with S. Invicta workers first, and it seems that they didn't die. But again, fire ants are nearly bulletproof. Since substrate makes the outworld looks loads better, and can help absorb sugary food juices, I using a substrate ants would never burrow in, for obvious reasons, one being the negative impact of salt on brood. The salt is diluted, but in amounts that have killed S. Invicta brood easily. Also, salt is antibacterial and anti mold, so the outworld would be much more sanitary.


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1 Lasius cf. Neoniger 30 workers

1 Camponotus sp. 15 workers

20 Tetramorium SpE 30 workers

1 T. Sessile 200 workers

 


#2 Offline Ants4fun - Posted July 9 2015 - 4:02 PM

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I would imagine that it would dehydrate the ants, much more the brood.

#3 Offline William. T - Posted July 9 2015 - 6:18 PM

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So, far, the fire ants are still alive. I am using an extremely diluted mixture. The mix would not reach the good chambers.


Species I keep:

 

1 Lasius cf. Neoniger 30 workers

1 Camponotus sp. 15 workers

20 Tetramorium SpE 30 workers

1 T. Sessile 200 workers

 


#4 Offline Vergara - Posted July 10 2015 - 12:21 PM

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I've Seen S. Invicta and Odontomachus living on the beach here, even on little islands there here surrounded by saltwater and sand. i always wondered how they got there.



#5 Offline William. T - Posted July 10 2015 - 12:53 PM

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Still alive! Now I am experimenting with T. Sessile workers.


Species I keep:

 

1 Lasius cf. Neoniger 30 workers

1 Camponotus sp. 15 workers

20 Tetramorium SpE 30 workers

1 T. Sessile 200 workers

 


#6 Offline Crystals - Posted July 10 2015 - 1:11 PM

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Why not just use something that pours in?  Like plaster, grout or hydrostone?

Cover it in sand while wet for decoration purposes.


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#7 Offline LC3 - Posted July 10 2015 - 5:34 PM

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Doesn't salt melt when touched with water?



#8 Offline Alza - Posted July 10 2015 - 5:38 PM

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that's sugar...I think



#9 Offline William. T - Posted July 10 2015 - 5:49 PM

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Why not just use something that pours in?  Like plaster, grout or hydrostone?

Cover it in sand while wet for decoration purposes.

I can't.

 

 

Doesn't salt melt when touched with water?

 

Look, the way people are acting, they think I am using a 100% salt substrate. I am mixing it with sand so the salt is almost no present but still can dry wet things out.


Species I keep:

 

1 Lasius cf. Neoniger 30 workers

1 Camponotus sp. 15 workers

20 Tetramorium SpE 30 workers

1 T. Sessile 200 workers

 


#10 Offline Ants4fun - Posted July 10 2015 - 7:58 PM

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I think the negatives would out way any potential benefits. Not sure what you are trying to acomplish that sand couldn't.

Edited by Ants4fun, July 11 2015 - 6:24 AM.


#11 Offline William. T - Posted July 11 2015 - 4:29 AM

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Scratch the plan. At the batch of newly molted workers died.


Species I keep:

 

1 Lasius cf. Neoniger 30 workers

1 Camponotus sp. 15 workers

20 Tetramorium SpE 30 workers

1 T. Sessile 200 workers

 





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