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[Chickalo]

Well, sorry again i get very angry when I get mad.

Could be worse.  You could've turned into a big green monster.  

Anyways, the one problem with this forum is the drama, but c'est la vie.  Instead of blaming this on eachother, I say blame it of the USDA who made it so only some are allowed and not so only highly invasives aren't.  Sometimes when you get angry it's best to step away and reflect, it's human nature to do stupid stuff when we're angry (exhibit a, wars).  A dumb conversation on the social acceptability of illegal ants is not something to swear and get censored about, and more on you're 10 or something wait a year or two (note to parents, I'm not encouraging your child to swear).

 

And I am exited to make a journal about them because buffalo, New York is 7-8 hours away from me. 

Also sorry, but it bothered me the moment I clicked this, I think you mean excited, not exited.

[AntsTopia]

I was scrolling through all the journals for black crazy ants. And I found this. This kid is crazy. Did he curse on the forum? Don't you get like warning points for those?

[ANTS_KL]

I was scrolling through all the journals for black crazy ants. And I found this. This kid is crazy. Did he curse on the forum? Don't you get like warning points for those?

Let's not bring back this trashed, dead thread. Move along now.

[NotAxo]

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[Serafine]

And, all of you are in tropical places so you're living the good life. Having tons and tons of tropical ants. Me, on no no no. I got slow growing tetrmorium over in New York. So no wonder you're so confident and taking a dump all over my jounal. But if this was you, you wouldn't do the same. Case closed and going to another forum where there are not hordes of jerks.

And quite a few of those people "in tropical places" are just as unhappy with their ants as you are.

 

Did you know there's a lot of Australians who absolutely despise Myrmecia bull ants for various reasons (not least their queens' habbits of eating their babies).

And a lot of Europeans say Lasius niger (the standard black garden ant that can be found on literally every sidewalk in any urban area across central and northern Europe) is boring because it's so abundant. Yet Americans envy european keepers because american Lasius don't have a single species that is as fast-growing, curious, hyperactive, hyperaggressive and enterntaining to watch than Lasius niger. And i'm pretty sure that there's a similar vibe towards Messor barbarus (probably THE most popular european ant) from some spanish keepers (and i'm very certain most of them absolutely hate argentine ants).

 

People see all those fancy ants from other countries on forums and social media and get unhappy because all they can think of is what they can't have - but they don't even look at what is living at their doorstep and much less appreciate it.

 

 

p.s. That's the first time i've seen someone mentioning slow-growing and Tetramorium in the same sentence. You clearly have never kept temperate Camponotus, large Ponerines or Myrmecia, many of those are absolute reproductive sloths that really show you what "slow-growing" actually means.

 

 

p.s.s. Here's the (probably not comprehensive) list of ants native to the state of New York according to Antmaps.

I'm pretty sure there's something on that list that's interesting to keep and worth some appreciation.

• Aphaenogaster carolinensis
• Aphaenogaster fulva
• Aphaenogaster lamellidens
• Aphaenogaster mariae
• Aphaenogaster picea
• Aphaenogaster rudis
• Aphaenogaster tennesseensis
• Aphaenogaster treatae
• Brachymyrmex depilis
• Camponotus americanus
• Camponotus caryae
• Camponotus castaneus
• Camponotus chromaiodes
• Camponotus herculeanus
• Camponotus nearcticus
• Camponotus novaeboracensis
• Camponotus pennsylvanicus
• Camponotus subbarbatus
• Crematogaster cerasi
• Crematogaster lineolata
• Dolichoderus mariae
• Dolichoderus plagiatus
• Dolichoderus pustulatus
• Dolichoderus taschenbergi
• Dorymyrmex grandulus
• Forelius pruinosus
• Formica argentea
• Formica aserva
• Formica biophilica
• Formica creightoni
• Formica difficilis
• Formica dolosa
• Formica exsectoides
• Formica fossaceps
• Formica glacialis
• Formica impexa
• Formica incerta
• Formica integra
• Formica knighti
• Formica lasioides
• Formica neogagates
• Formica neorufibarbis
• Formica nepticula
• Formica obscuripes
• Formica obscuriventris
• Formica pallidefulva
• Formica pergandei
• Formica podzolica
• Formica querquetulana
• Formica rubicunda
• Formica subaenescens
• Formica subintegra
• Formica subsericea
• Formicoxenus provancheri
• Hypoponera opacior
• Lasius americanus
• Lasius aphidicola
• Lasius brevicornis
• Lasius claviger
• Lasius interjectus
• Lasius latipes
• Lasius minutus
• Lasius murphyi
• Lasius nearcticus
• Lasius neoniger
• Lasius pallitarsis
• Lasius plumopilosus
• Lasius pubescens
• Lasius speculiventris
• Lasius subglaber
• Leptothorax canadensis
• Monomorium emarginatum
• Monomorium minimum
• Monomorium viridum
• Myrmecina americana
• Myrmica americana
• Myrmica brevispinosa
• Myrmica detritinodis
• Myrmica fracticornis
• Myrmica incompleta
• Myrmica latifrons
• Myrmica lobifrons
• Myrmica pinetorum
• Myrmica punctiventris
• Myrmica sculptilis
• Myrmica semiparasitica
• Myrmica smithana
• Myrmica spatulata
• Nylanderia arenivaga
• Nylanderia concinna
• Nylanderia parvula
• Pheidole bicarinata
• Pheidole davisi
• Pheidole morrisii
• Pheidole pilifera
• Pheidole tysoni
• Polyergus lucidus
• Polyergus montivagus
• Polyergus sanwaldi
• Ponera pennsylvanica
• Prenolepis imparis
• Proceratium crassicorne
• Proceratium pergandei
• Proceratium silaceum
• Solenopsis molesta
• Solenopsis texana
• Stenamma brevicorne
• Stenamma diecki
• Stenamma impar
• Stenamma schmittii
• Stigmatomma pallipes
• Strumigenys clypeata
• Strumigenys missouriensis
• Strumigenys pergandei
• Strumigenys pilinasis
• Strumigenys pulchella
• Strumigenys rostrata
• Tapinoma sessile
• Temnothorax ambiguus
• Temnothorax americanus
• Temnothorax curvispinosus
• Temnothorax duloticus
• Temnothorax longispinosus
• Temnothorax minutissimus
• Temnothorax schaumii
• Temnothorax texanus
• Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

 

 

 

Edited by Serafine, August 13 2022 - 9:05 AM.

[ANTdrew]

This member is mercifully inactive for quite some time. No need to revive the drama. Let’s move on, or I will lock this thread.

[AntsTopia]

This member is mercifully inactive for quite some time. No need to revive the drama. Let’s move on, or I will lock this thread.

You can do that?? I thought only the owner can do that.

Edited by AntsTopia, August 13 2022 - 12:18 PM.

[That_one_ant_guy]

Only mods and admin van lock threads, and Drew's a mod

[AntsTopia]

Ohhhhhhh

[Jonathan5608]

And, all of you are in tropical places so you're living the good life. Having tons and tons of tropical ants. Me, on no no no. I got slow growing tetrmorium over in New York. So no wonder you're so confident and taking a dump all over my jounal. But if this was you, you wouldn't do the same. Case closed and going to another forum where there are not hordes of jerks.

And quite a few of those people "in tropical places" are just as unhappy with their ants as you are.

Did you know there's a lot of Australians who absolutely despise Myrmecia bull ants for various reasons (not least their queens' habbits of eating their babies).
And a lot of Europeans say Lasius niger (the standard black garden ant that can be found on literally every sidewalk in any urban area across central and northern Europe) is boring because it's so abundant. Yet Americans envy european keepers because american Lasius don't have a single species that is as fast-growing, curious, hyperactive, hyperaggressive and enterntaining to watch than Lasius niger. And i'm pretty sure that there's a similar vibe towards Messor barbarus (probably THE most popular european ant) from some spanish keepers (and i'm very certain most of them absolutely hate argentine ants).

People see all those fancy ants from other countries on forums and social media and get unhappy because all they can think of is what they can't have - but they don't even look at what is living at their doorstep and much less appreciate it.


p.s. That's the first time i've seen someone mentioning slow-growing and Tetramorium in the same sentence. You clearly have never kept temperate Camponotus, large Ponerines or Myrmecia, many of those are absolute reproductive sloths that really show you what "slow-growing" actually means.


p.s.s. Here's the (probably not comprehensive) list of ants native to the state of New York according to Antmaps.
I'm pretty sure there's something on that list that's interesting to keep and worth some appreciation.

• Aphaenogaster carolinensis
• Aphaenogaster fulva
• Aphaenogaster lamellidens
• Aphaenogaster mariae
• Aphaenogaster picea
• Aphaenogaster rudis
• Aphaenogaster tennesseensis
• Aphaenogaster treatae
• Brachymyrmex depilis
• Camponotus americanus
• Camponotus caryae
• Camponotus castaneus
• Camponotus chromaiodes
• Camponotus herculeanus
• Camponotus nearcticus
• Camponotus novaeboracensis
• Camponotus pennsylvanicus
• Camponotus subbarbatus
• Crematogaster cerasi
• Crematogaster lineolata
• Dolichoderus mariae
• Dolichoderus plagiatus
• Dolichoderus pustulatus
• Dolichoderus taschenbergi
• Dorymyrmex grandulus
• Forelius pruinosus
• Formica argentea
• Formica aserva
• Formica biophilica
• Formica creightoni
• Formica difficilis
• Formica dolosa
• Formica exsectoides
• Formica fossaceps
• Formica glacialis
• Formica impexa
• Formica incerta
• Formica integra
• Formica knighti
• Formica lasioides
• Formica neogagates
• Formica neorufibarbis
• Formica nepticula
• Formica obscuripes
• Formica obscuriventris
• Formica pallidefulva
• Formica pergandei
• Formica podzolica
• Formica querquetulana
• Formica rubicunda
• Formica subaenescens
• Formica subintegra
• Formica subsericea
• Formicoxenus provancheri
• Hypoponera opacior
• Lasius americanus
• Lasius aphidicola
• Lasius brevicornis
• Lasius claviger
• Lasius interjectus
• Lasius latipes
• Lasius minutus
• Lasius murphyi
• Lasius nearcticus
• Lasius neoniger
• Lasius pallitarsis
• Lasius plumopilosus
• Lasius pubescens
• Lasius speculiventris
• Lasius subglaber
• Leptothorax canadensis
• Monomorium emarginatum
• Monomorium minimum
• Monomorium viridum
• Myrmecina americana
• Myrmica americana
• Myrmica brevispinosa
• Myrmica detritinodis
• Myrmica fracticornis
• Myrmica incompleta
• Myrmica latifrons
• Myrmica lobifrons
• Myrmica pinetorum
• Myrmica punctiventris
• Myrmica sculptilis
• Myrmica semiparasitica
• Myrmica smithana
• Myrmica spatulata
• Nylanderia arenivaga
• Nylanderia concinna
• Nylanderia parvula
• Pheidole bicarinata
• Pheidole davisi
• Pheidole morrisii
• Pheidole pilifera
• Pheidole tysoni
• Polyergus lucidus
• Polyergus montivagus
• Polyergus sanwaldi
• Ponera pennsylvanica
• Prenolepis imparis
• Proceratium crassicorne
• Proceratium pergandei
• Proceratium silaceum
• Solenopsis molesta
• Solenopsis texana
• Stenamma brevicorne
• Stenamma diecki
• Stenamma impar
• Stenamma schmittii
• Stigmatomma pallipes
• Strumigenys clypeata
• Strumigenys missouriensis
• Strumigenys pergandei
• Strumigenys pilinasis
• Strumigenys pulchella
• Strumigenys rostrata
• Tapinoma sessile
• Temnothorax ambiguus
• Temnothorax americanus
• Temnothorax curvispinosus
• Temnothorax duloticus
• Temnothorax longispinosus
• Temnothorax minutissimus
• Temnothorax schaumii
• Temnothorax texanus
• Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Can you post the source you used for NY ant species. I’ve been using this
https://www.antwiki....f_New_York_City
But it seems that there a lot more species available. I’m very excited for next years anting.

Edited by Jonathan5608, August 14 2022 - 10:50 AM.

[Serafine]

https://antmaps.org/

 

It's the list for the entire state. Some of the species will almost certainly not live in your area and some might only live in a small valley or wood but there should be a decent selection near your place still.

Some ants can be quite inconspicuous despite being very abundant.