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Nomamyrmex S tier because can attack atta

[AntaholicAnonymous]

Someone has been watching tierzoo…


If we are going by his logic, almost all ants are S tier due to eusociality being a broken strategy. The only bad ants ability wise would probably be stuff like workerless inquilines.

Yess I have. lol
I'd also say ants that are often victims to slave makers and parasitic queens could get pushed off S Tier.
Instead of a Tierlist he could do a video on why ants are OP that makes more sense.

[Antkeeper01]

F Tier- Tapinoma sessile

NEVER!

[futurebird]

Someone has been watching tierzoo…


If we are going by his logic, almost all ants are S tier due to eusociality being a broken strategy. The only bad ants ability wise would probably be stuff like workerless inquilines.

 

This. Ants are just generally incredible and wildly successful. Ant diversity allows them to live everywhere but outside in antarctica (but they do live on the continent in the human research stations)

 

Also unlike other critters that are "everywhere" like rodents and roaches and such ants are mostly harmless. Even beneficial. 

[OiledOlives]

S tier: Lasius- hey, don't judge, you dream about your Atta and I'll dream about my polymorphic Psuedolasius.

A tier: Myrmica rubra, they have cool food responses (queens will come out to drink honey before workers inevitably pull them back in lol), look cool, polygynous, somewhat polymorphic, grow moderate, forage frequently.

B tier:  Aphaenogaster picea, look nice, I think queens are quite pretty.  Current colony is pretty chill and I like them quite a bit.

C tier:  Ponera pennsylvanica, pretty cute imo, longth and fun to watch slither while eating.

D tier:  Tetramorium immigrans, middle grounds.  Kind of small and not polygynous, but still have somewhat interesting behaviours.  Fun to watch feed.

E tier:  Prenolepis imparis, admittedly fun to watch in the wild, however founding is slow.  Queens are beautiful though, the founding bit is why it's E and not D or C.  I really hate waiting through founding.

F tier:  Solenopsis molesta, literally no.  Escape artists, extremely small, only good thing is polygynous, which isn't good when they're escape artists and extremely small.

 

Also, on AKE they make some genus specific tier lists iirc.

Why have you placed Ponera above Tetramorium

[Antkeeper01]

S tier: Lasius- hey, don't judge, you dream about your Atta and I'll dream about my polymorphic Psuedolasius.
A tier: Myrmica rubra, they have cool food responses (queens will come out to drink honey before workers inevitably pull them back in lol), look cool, polygynous, somewhat polymorphic, grow moderate, forage frequently.
B tier:  Aphaenogaster picea, look nice, I think queens are quite pretty.  Current colony is pretty chill and I like them quite a bit.
C tier:  Ponera pennsylvanica, pretty cute imo, longth and fun to watch slither while eating.
D tier:  Tetramorium immigrans, middle grounds.  Kind of small and not polygynous, but still have somewhat interesting behaviours.  Fun to watch feed.
E tier:  Prenolepis imparis, admittedly fun to watch in the wild, however founding is slow.  Queens are beautiful though, the founding bit is why it's E and not D or C.  I really hate waiting through founding.
F tier:  Solenopsis molesta, literally no.  Escape artists, extremely small, only good thing is polygynous, which isn't good when they're escape artists and extremely small.
 
Also, on AKE they make some genus specific tier lists iirc.

Why have you placed Ponera above Tetramorium

because tetras aren't cool looking and are invasive

[Kaelwizard]

 

 

S tier: Lasius- hey, don't judge, you dream about your Atta and I'll dream about my polymorphic Psuedolasius.
A tier: Myrmica rubra, they have cool food responses (queens will come out to drink honey before workers inevitably pull them back in lol), look cool, polygynous, somewhat polymorphic, grow moderate, forage frequently.
B tier:  Aphaenogaster picea, look nice, I think queens are quite pretty.  Current colony is pretty chill and I like them quite a bit.
C tier:  Ponera pennsylvanica, pretty cute imo, longth and fun to watch slither while eating.
D tier:  Tetramorium immigrans, middle grounds.  Kind of small and not polygynous, but still have somewhat interesting behaviours.  Fun to watch feed.
E tier:  Prenolepis imparis, admittedly fun to watch in the wild, however founding is slow.  Queens are beautiful though, the founding bit is why it's E and not D or C.  I really hate waiting through founding.
F tier:  Solenopsis molesta, literally no.  Escape artists, extremely small, only good thing is polygynous, which isn't good when they're escape artists and extremely small.
 
Also, on AKE they make some genus specific tier lists iirc.

Why have you placed Ponera above Tetramorium

because tetras aren't cool looking and are invasive

 

I think the point was to base it off of their success in the wild rather than in captivity, so if we go off of that than Tetramorium immigrans would most definitely be above Ponera pennsylvanica.

[OiledOlives]

 

 

 

S tier: Lasius- hey, don't judge, you dream about your Atta and I'll dream about my polymorphic Psuedolasius.
A tier: Myrmica rubra, they have cool food responses (queens will come out to drink honey before workers inevitably pull them back in lol), look cool, polygynous, somewhat polymorphic, grow moderate, forage frequently.
B tier:  Aphaenogaster picea, look nice, I think queens are quite pretty.  Current colony is pretty chill and I like them quite a bit.
C tier:  Ponera pennsylvanica, pretty cute imo, longth and fun to watch slither while eating.
D tier:  Tetramorium immigrans, middle grounds.  Kind of small and not polygynous, but still have somewhat interesting behaviours.  Fun to watch feed.
E tier:  Prenolepis imparis, admittedly fun to watch in the wild, however founding is slow.  Queens are beautiful though, the founding bit is why it's E and not D or C.  I really hate waiting through founding.
F tier:  Solenopsis molesta, literally no.  Escape artists, extremely small, only good thing is polygynous, which isn't good when they're escape artists and extremely small.
 
Also, on AKE they make some genus specific tier lists iirc.

Why have you placed Ponera above Tetramorium

because tetras aren't cool looking and are invasive

 

I think the point was to base it off of their success in the wild rather than in captivity, so if we go off of that than Tetramorium immigrans would most definitely be above Ponera pennsylvanica.

 

Not only for that reason, but Tetramorium immigrans is far more interesting in captivity and actually grows at a decent rate, unlike P. pennsylvanica. 

Edited by OiledOlives, November 20 2021 - 5:42 PM.

[NickAnter]

Here is my United States Tier List based on purely biased opinions on awesomeness.:

 

S Tier: Camponotus socius, Atta texana, Atta mexicana, Mycetomoellerius jamaicensis, Cephalotes varians, Myrmecocystus placodops, Odontomachus haematodus, Solenopsis geminata, Camponotus ulcerosus, Pheidole rhea, and Acromyrmex versicolor.

 

A Tier: Camponotus us-ca02, All Myrmecocystus, Camponotus zonatus, Colobopsis missippiensis, Colobopsis etiolata, Odontomachus clarus, Lasius latipes, Aphaenogaster floridana, Nylanderia phantasma, Xenomyrmex floridanus, Pheidole obscurithorax, Pheidole morrisii, Pheidole titanis, Pachycondyla harpax, Neoponera villosa, Trachymyrmex septentrionalus, Mycetomoellerius turrifex, Mycetosoritis harmanni, Leptogenys manni/elongata, all the other Cephalotes, and the snap-jaw Strumigenys and Camponotus yogi, Harpagoxenus canadensis, Temnothorax americanus, Formicoxenus spp, Camponotus planatus, Camponotus mina, Camponotus novogranadensis.

 

B Tier: Pseudoponera stigma,  Platythyrea punctata, Solenopsis thief ants, Camponotus atriceps, Camponotus floridanus, other Strumigenys, Pseudomyrmex, Camponotus ocreatus, Camponotus quercicola, Camponotus laevigatus, other Acanthomyops, Hypoponera spp. all Formica, Camponotus snellingi, and all the red, orange, and yellow Aphaenogaster.

 

C Tier: Tetramorium, Subgenus Lasius, other Nylanderia, other Camponotus, Temnothorax, Leptothorax, blah Pheidole, brown Aphaenogaster, Brachymyrxmex depilis, Prenolepis imparis.

 

D Tier: Solenopsis xyloni - Special species.

 

F Tier: Solenopsis invicta, Linepithema humile, Brachymyrmex patagonicus and obscurior, Tapinoma sessile.

 

Fancy Z Tier: Dorylinae.

Edited by NickAnter, November 20 2021 - 8:23 PM.

[Idontexist]

Titanonyrma lubei is by far the best. Fun to raise. Care and the colonies are absolutely humongous. The only bad thing is getting that huge formicarium because of their size. Shame they have not had a nuptial flight since the paleogene
Titanonyrma lubei is by far the best. Fun to raise. Care and the colonies are absolutely humongous. The only bad thing is getting that huge formicarium because of their size. Shame they have not had a nuptial flight since the paleogene

[OhNoNotAgain]

I thought this was the negative tier list.... In which case I would go with this US-centric

S. invicta (because they kill people and animals and native ants and I'd rather have L. humile invasions than Solenopsis invasions any day)

L. humile (because they kill native ants and invade the house and KILLED MY DRYWOOD TERMITE COLONIES grrrrr)

Tetramorium (I mean I keep them but they escape so often and killed off several of my founding colonies... they never managed to kill the queens but some queens are helpless without at least one worker alive.)

Edited by OhNoNotAgain, November 22 2021 - 9:59 AM.

[Antkeeper01]

Titanonyrma lubei is by far the best. Fun to raise. Care and the colonies are absolutely humongous. The only bad thing is getting that huge formicarium because of their size. Shame they have not had a nuptial flight since the paleogene
Titanonyrma lubei is by far the best. Fun to raise. Care and the colonies are absolutely humongous. The only bad thing is getting that huge formicarium because of their size. Shame they have not had a nuptial flight since the paleogene

those went extinct

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mans 1000000 years old

[Idontexist]

Dyscothyrea mixta f tier because they are small. And their colonies have 20 individuals
Dyscothyrea mixta f tier because they are small. And their colonies have 20 individuals
Dyscothyrea mixta f tier because they are small. And their colonies have 20 individuals

[ANTdrew]

Dyscothyrea mixta f tier because they are small. And their colonies have 20 individuals
Dyscothyrea mixta f tier because they are small. And their colonies have 20 individuals
Dyscothyrea mixta f tier because they are small. And their colonies have 20 individuals

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[NicholasP]

In my opinion the worst ant species of all the tiers is Brachymyrmex Patagonicus since they're highly invasive, Extermely tiny by getting max size workers of around 2mm if you're really lucky, and the queens can nest inside a house and never be noticed.

[11.11.00]

My subjective californian ant tier list

S: Acromyrmex Versicolor, Camponotus Ca02, Camponotus Ocreatus, Myrmecocystus Placodops, Novomessor Cockerelli

 

A: Pogonomyrmex Rugosus, Myrmecocystus Mexicanus, Myrmicocystus Navajo, Myrmecocystus Mendax, Camponotus Semitestaceus, Camponotus Sansabeanus, Camponotus Fragilis, Manica Bradleyi, Liometopum Occidentale,  Formica Obscuripes group, Formica Moki,

 

B: Pogonomyrmex Californicus group,Solenopsis Aurea, Pseudomyrmex Apache, Camponotus Laevigatus, Camponotus Vicinus, Pheidole Vistana, Pheidole Desertorum, Acanthomyops, Manica Hunteri, Manica Invidia, Aphaenogaster Occidentalis, Veromessor Andrei, Veromessor Pergandei

 

C: Pheidole Hyatti, Formica Fusca group, Solenopsis Xyloni, Lasius Americanus, Camponotus Hyatti, Myrmecocystus Mimicus, Formica Pacifica, Cthonolasius, Lasius Americanus,  Pseudomyrmex Pallidus, Lasius Brevicornis,

 

D:, Forelius Pruinosis, Formica Neogagates, Prenolepsis, Pheidole Californica, Monomorium Ergotygyna, Solenopsis Molesta, Myrmica, Crematogaster (Impossible to ID)

 

F: Solenopsis Invicta, Tetramorium Immigrans, Paratrechina Longicornis, Monomorium Pharoanis, Tapinoma Sessile

 

 

Argentines

Edited by 11.11.00, January 8 2022 - 5:10 PM.

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