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[AntaholicAnonymous]

What's up I've been away from the forum and the hobby for a bit but I'm back at it now.

I've seen YouTube videos of putting animals and insects in tierlists from worst to best.
I wanna know which ants would be in F tier as the worst species in yalls experience/opinion.
We can also talk about the best ones but I don't know too many really bad ones off the top of my head so I'm interested in your input.

[eea]

linepithema humile F tier

[AntaholicAnonymous]

linepithema humile F tier

On the tierlists I was watching they were judged by their abilities so a highly invasive and wide spread species would be B or A I'm wondering if there are ants that are just bad at what they do or have adaptations that become obsolete

[eea]

i don't think there's ants that are bad at what they do

[ANTS_KL]

There are no ants that are bad at what they do tbh. You can only judge them based on how much you like them. For an F I would say RIFA or L. humile.

[Leptomyrmx]

Yeah L. humile is the only one I can think of that gets an F from me. Super annoying. They killed off this huge Iridomyrmex (not meat ant) colony in my grandmother's backyard. Iridomyrmex are common here but it was cool seeing such a huge colony.

 

Judged on how much I like them by the way.

 

totally don't have a sudden urge to keep a giant 1000+ queen colony of linepithema humile now

[AntaholicAnonymous]

I posted a comment that the YouTuber has to make an ant Tierlist next and 3.6k people liked it.
Noone was able to come up with a bad species. I think ants have such a high competition among other ant colonies that the bad ones just got extinct long ago.
If it's not other ants it's crazy environments like the dessert. Ants are the kings of adaptations.

RIFA are hated but only because they kick [censored] and cause a lit of damage. They are in S Tier in abilities but we hate them on a deeper level

Edited by AntaholicAnonymous, October 31 2021 - 9:15 PM.

[SYUTEO]

Monomorium pharaohnis are my least favourite species so I will place them in F tier. Why? Because they literally killed 90% of my mealworms and caused a food shortage in my ant room . They even went their way into a colony of Colobopsis and killed them too.

[DDD101DDD]

 

linepithema humile F tier

On the tierlists I was watching they were judged by their abilities so a highly invasive and wide spread species would be B or A I'm wondering if there are ants that are just bad at what they do or have adaptations that become obsolete

 

Judging from performance in the wild or captivity?

[AntaholicAnonymous]

Performance in the wild. F tier in captivity is an easier question id say. lol

[Chickalo]

S tier: Lasius- hey, don't judge, you dream about your Atta and I'll dream about my polymorphic Psuedolasius.

A tier: Myrmica rubra, they have cool food responses (queens will come out to drink honey before workers inevitably pull them back in lol), look cool, polygynous, somewhat polymorphic, grow moderate, forage frequently.

B tier:  Aphaenogaster picea, look nice, I think queens are quite pretty.  Current colony is pretty chill and I like them quite a bit.

C tier:  Ponera pennsylvanica, pretty cute imo, longth and fun to watch slither while eating.

D tier:  Tetramorium immigrans, middle grounds.  Kind of small and not polygynous, but still have somewhat interesting behaviours.  Fun to watch feed.

E tier:  Prenolepis imparis, admittedly fun to watch in the wild, however founding is slow.  Queens are beautiful though, the founding bit is why it's E and not D or C.  I really hate waiting through founding.

F tier:  Solenopsis molesta, literally no.  Escape artists, extremely small, only good thing is polygynous, which isn't good when they're escape artists and extremely small.

 

Also, on AKE they make some genus specific tier lists iirc.

Edited by Chickalo, November 2 2021 - 11:26 AM.

[ExponentMars]

I hate L. Humile because they're the reason that the only ants in my area are L. Humile. They killed off many of the native ants in my area, so I have to drive far to find actually good ants  

[ExponentMars]

S tier: Lasius- hey, don't judge, you dream about your Atta and I'll dream about my polymorphic Psuedolasius.

A tier: Myrmica rubra, they have cool food responses (queens will come out to drink honey before workers inevitably pull them back in lol), look cool, polygynous, somewhat polymorphic, grow moderate, forage frequently.

B tier:  Aphaenogaster picea, look nice, I think queens are quite pretty.  Current colony is pretty chill and I like them quite a bit.

C tier:  Ponera pennsylvanica, pretty cute imo, longth and fun to watch slither while eating.

D tier:  Tetramorium immigrans, middle grounds.  Kind of small and not polygynous, but still have somewhat interesting behaviours.  Fun to watch feed.

E tier:  Prenolepis imparis, admittedly fun to watch in the wild, however founding is slow.  Queens are beautiful though, the founding bit is why it's E and not D or C.  I really hate waiting through founding.

F tier:  Solenopsis molesta, literally no.  Escape artists, extremely small, only good thing is polygynous, which isn't good when they're escape artists and extremely small.

 

Also, on AKE they make some genus specific tier lists iirc.

Hmm... so prenolepis is good? I guess I'll try to catch some this winter then. 

[Nare]

Formica ulkei is the pinnacle of ant evolution and if you disagree you're wrong.

[Chickalo]

Formica ulkei is the pinnacle of ant evolution and if you disagree you're wrong.

Lasius latipes is better 

[AntaholicAnonymous]

My personal S tier for ant keeping are manica rubida by far.
Big [censored] red ants who are the best for natural tanks and dig all day long.
A lot of surface activity, they are great solo and team hunters and very easy to keep happy and very entertaining to watch cause they are always up to something and didn't even attempt to escape once. They can climb glass but not very well I didn't even renew the old [censored] fluon because they are happy with the large tank and don't even test it.

Also non ant keepers are impressed by them because of their size and mean look. Just they way they run around looks like they are out to kill. Its hard to get anyone excited about a lasius Niger colony that's not that interested in ants in general.

For natural tanks camponotus would be F for me they just hide too much

[ANTdrew]

Formica ulkei is the pinnacle of ant evolution and if you disagree you're wrong.

Woah! You’re back!

[antscientist]

S - Camponotus   one of the biggest ants! And this species is one of the first species I've ever kept!

A - Prenolepis       really nice species of ants no aggression in this colony their more like lasius ants but better...

B - Lasius             nice all native and one of the best beginner species

C - Formica          Eh not too bad. A little bit too fast and they get stressed easily and they are really messy.

D - Tetramorium   Tetramorium aren't the best species in my opinion their behavior is a bit like solenopsis ants and their stings hurt a bit

E - Solenopsis      Should actually be near the A-C tier...But their stings hurt and they are escape artists but other than that, they're pretty fun ants to keep

 

F - Formica.            PLS don't QUESTION THIS.....

[ANTdrew]

F Tier- Tapinoma sessile

[Manitobant]

Someone has been watching tierzoo…


If we are going by his logic, almost all ants are S tier due to eusociality being a broken strategy. The only bad ants ability wise would probably be stuff like workerless inquilines.

Edited by Manitobant, November 4 2021 - 5:44 PM.