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Tupelo,MS - 2021/09/30

Started By DarkCerebral , Sep 30 2021 9:17 PM

Best Answer Aaron567 , October 1 2021 - 5:22 PM

Forelius, probably pruinosus or mccooki. F. pruinosus seems to have nuptial flights primarily in June & July, so maybe that suggests that you have mccooki, which might have a later flight season, but I don't have any experience with that species. If she gets workers and they have tiny hairs on the antennal scapes it's mccooki.

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#1 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted September 30 2021 - 9:17 PM

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1. Tupelo, MS; City Park
2. 2021/09/30
3. City Park Side Walk
4. N/A
5. Red/Orange and Brown
6. Unknown
7. N/A
8. N/A

9. 2021/09/30, Night, Walking across side walk

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#2 Offline TestSubjectOne - Posted September 30 2021 - 9:41 PM

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Forelius or Dorymyrmex.


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#3 Offline ANTS_KL - Posted September 30 2021 - 11:02 PM

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Forelius or Dorymyrmex.

I second this

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YouTube: https://m.youtube.co...uKsahGliSH7EqOQ (It's pretty dead. Might upload again soon, don't expect my voice to sound the same though.)

Currently kept ant species, favorites have a star in front of their names (NOT in alphabetical order, also may be outdated sometimes): ★ Camponotus irritans inferior, ★ Ooceraea biroi, Pheidole parva, ★ Nylanderia sp., ★ Paraparatrechina tapinomoides, Platythyrea sp., Anochetus sp., Colobopsis sp. (cylindrica group), ★ Crematogaster ferrarii, Polyrhachis (Myrma) cf. pruinosa, Polyrhachis (Cyrtomyrma) laevissima, Tapinoma sp. (formerly Zatapinoma)

Death count: Probably over a hundred individual queens and colonies by now. I cannot recall whatsoever.

#4 Offline NickAnter - Posted October 1 2021 - 2:36 PM

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We'll need length to better determine Genus with these images.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#5 Offline Aaron567 - Posted October 1 2021 - 5:22 PM   Best Answer

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Forelius, probably pruinosus or mccooki. F. pruinosus seems to have nuptial flights primarily in June & July, so maybe that suggests that you have mccooki, which might have a later flight season, but I don't have any experience with that species. If she gets workers and they have tiny hairs on the antennal scapes it's mccooki.


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#6 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted October 1 2021 - 10:05 PM

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We'll need length to better determine Genus with these images.

I had already stored her away before getting the measurements. I will make sure to get this info probably Sunday. I do agree she is one of the 2 Forelius, just hard to tell which one. Are either of these good to raise or not so much?


#7 Offline Aaron567 - Posted October 2 2021 - 1:07 PM

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Shouldn't be too difficult, possibly picky with food. They're extremely thermophilic so they probably thrive the best if kept in a sand setup with a heat lamp.. Pogonomyrmex-like conditions.


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#8 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted October 4 2021 - 8:33 PM

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After looking more at this queen, I believe I have another of the same species already which has been raising her first batch extremely slowly. I may look to join them and put into my sandy bifurcated mini hearth with some heat.


#9 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted October 11 2021 - 8:51 PM

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Does this look like the same species? I have had her since August and she finally has her first worker.

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#10 Offline ANTS_KL - Posted October 11 2021 - 9:27 PM

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I think so. Looks like forelius

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Young ant keeper with a decent amount of knowledge on local ant species.

YouTube: https://m.youtube.co...uKsahGliSH7EqOQ (It's pretty dead. Might upload again soon, don't expect my voice to sound the same though.)

Currently kept ant species, favorites have a star in front of their names (NOT in alphabetical order, also may be outdated sometimes): ★ Camponotus irritans inferior, ★ Ooceraea biroi, Pheidole parva, ★ Nylanderia sp., ★ Paraparatrechina tapinomoides, Platythyrea sp., Anochetus sp., Colobopsis sp. (cylindrica group), ★ Crematogaster ferrarii, Polyrhachis (Myrma) cf. pruinosa, Polyrhachis (Cyrtomyrma) laevissima, Tapinoma sp. (formerly Zatapinoma)

Death count: Probably over a hundred individual queens and colonies by now. I cannot recall whatsoever.

#11 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted October 12 2021 - 12:12 PM

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Any recommendations on merging these two queens? Should I wait for both to have workers before introducing? Or should I stay away from merging at this point?


#12 Offline ANTS_KL - Posted October 12 2021 - 6:25 PM

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Any recommendations on merging these two queens? Should I wait for both to have workers before introducing? Or should I stay away from merging at this point?

Just keep them separately

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Young ant keeper with a decent amount of knowledge on local ant species.

YouTube: https://m.youtube.co...uKsahGliSH7EqOQ (It's pretty dead. Might upload again soon, don't expect my voice to sound the same though.)

Currently kept ant species, favorites have a star in front of their names (NOT in alphabetical order, also may be outdated sometimes): ★ Camponotus irritans inferior, ★ Ooceraea biroi, Pheidole parva, ★ Nylanderia sp., ★ Paraparatrechina tapinomoides, Platythyrea sp., Anochetus sp., Colobopsis sp. (cylindrica group), ★ Crematogaster ferrarii, Polyrhachis (Myrma) cf. pruinosa, Polyrhachis (Cyrtomyrma) laevissima, Tapinoma sp. (formerly Zatapinoma)

Death count: Probably over a hundred individual queens and colonies by now. I cannot recall whatsoever.

#13 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 12 2021 - 6:49 PM

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Any recommendations on merging these two queens? Should I wait for both to have workers before introducing? Or should I stay away from merging at this point?

since one of them already has workers, it is too late to merge and they will fight.
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Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#14 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted October 12 2021 - 8:43 PM

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Thanks all. Looks like we now have 2 Forelius Mccooki colonies. One started and one wait and see.


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#15 Offline Martialis - Posted November 4 2021 - 6:09 PM

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Hey, you from Mississippi? Haven’t seen tons of activity from around here

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#16 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted November 7 2021 - 8:52 PM

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Hey, you from Mississippi? Haven’t seen tons of activity from around here

I am. Yeah I don't know of much if any activity around here. Most people I even mention this hobby to end up just having their heads explode in confusion.


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#17 Offline Martialis - Posted November 8 2021 - 9:32 AM

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Hey, you from Mississippi? Haven’t seen tons of activity from around here

I am. Yeah I don't know of much if any activity around here. Most people I even mention this hobby to end up just having their heads explode in confusion.
Nice. I’m down at MSU right now so I was kind of excited when I saw your post.

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#18 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted November 22 2021 - 5:28 PM

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Yeah I'm up here anting. I actually use a lot of MSU data about which parks have the species I'm looking to find. I have already checked with the rangers and got the green light for collecting anything locally.


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#19 Offline Martialis - Posted December 3 2021 - 1:55 PM

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Yeah I'm up here anting. I actually use a lot of MSU data about which parks have the species I'm looking to find. I have already checked with the rangers and got the green light for collecting anything locally.

Nice, where did you get permission to collect?  One of the state parks?


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