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ID request Semptember 16th 2021, Portugal (Europe), habitat: compacted dirt road on an Eucalyptus tree forest

Started By Formiga , Sep 16 2021 6:57 AM

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#1 Offline Formiga - Posted September 16 2021 - 6:57 AM

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Color: all black. The (thinner) tips of her legs seem to be lighter in color, possibly brown.

 

Size: 13 mm.

 

Seems to have a petiole and a postpetiole on her waist. (visible on the photos)

 

Big gaster, full clostral.

 

Found walking around on the side of the dirt road.

 

Isn't going for the honey, either pure or diluted in water. Might be from the stress of the journey and moving into her new home.

 

Please check the attached photos.

 

 

 

Thanks everyone for any ID on her! (y)

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#2 Offline eea - Posted September 16 2021 - 8:05 AM

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 messor


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#3 Offline Formiga - Posted September 16 2021 - 11:34 AM

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 messor

Thanks, eea. (y)

That was my first thought, but me noob needs a more knowledge confirmation.

My Formica fusca were caught in a place primarily with Messors, so me noob tried to feed them seeds.

 

So, assuming it's a Messor, any hints on the sp., anyone?

Specially if this affects anything particularly like behavior, feeding or nesting conditions, hibernation, etc.

Just to make sure I don't have a Messor gremlin! :D (don't get it wet, don't expose it to light, and don't feed it after midnight!)

Thanks.


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#4 Offline GreekAnts - Posted September 16 2021 - 12:41 PM

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 messor

Thanks, eea. (y)

That was my first thought, but me noob needs a more knowledge confirmation.

My Formica fusca were caught in a place primarily with Messors, so me noob tried to feed them seeds.

 

So, assuming it's a Messor, any hints on the sp., anyone?

Specially if this affects anything particularly like behavior, feeding or nesting conditions, hibernation, etc.

Just to make sure I don't have a Messor gremlin! :D (don't get it wet, don't expose it to light, and don't feed it after midnight!)

Thanks.

 

Messor are notoriously hard to id, I have pictures of workers from my colony under the stereoscope and still its not enough for id. 


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#5 Offline eea - Posted September 16 2021 - 3:50 PM

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 messor

Thanks, eea. (y)

That was my first thought, but me noob needs a more knowledge confirmation.

My Formica fusca were caught in a place primarily with Messors, so me noob tried to feed them seeds.

 

So, assuming it's a Messor, any hints on the sp., anyone?

Specially if this affects anything particularly like behavior, feeding or nesting conditions, hibernation, etc.

Just to make sure I don't have a Messor gremlin! :D (don't get it wet, don't expose it to light, and don't feed it after midnight!)

Thanks.

 

gonna guess messor structor but I'm not sure


#6 Offline NickAnter - Posted September 16 2021 - 4:07 PM

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Messor sp. is probably as far as you can go here.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#7 Offline Formiga - Posted September 23 2021 - 1:31 PM

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Confirming it's a Messor is good enough for me. Thanks guys!

 

Just checked her a while ago. It seems she has laid a single egg so far. It's a start, let's give time some time, as we say here in Portugal.

 

I read somewhere they don't like honey. This one ignored it. In a few days I'll give her some sugar water. What's the recommendation? 2 parts water 1 part sugar? White refined sugar is good enough or should I go to the brown one?

 

(damn, there's an ant crawling around the borders of my laptop while I'm typing this... Ants everywhere! Should I go to a therapist?  :lol:  )


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