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Australian Honeypot Nuptials?

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#1 Offline Leptomyrmx - Posted September 15 2021 - 4:52 PM

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Hi, does anyone know when the Australian honeypot ants Melophorus bagoti and Camponotus inflatus have their nuptial flight? I live in Sydney, but my grandparents travel to the outback a lot, maybe I can teach them to identify some! And also, if you've ever kept one of these species please tell me!

 

EDIT: Camponotus inflatus might be illegal to keep.


Edited by Leptomyrmx, September 15 2021 - 5:18 PM.

My Ants:

Colonies: Camponotus humilior 1w, Opisthopsis rufithorax 11w, Aphaenogaster longiceps ~5w, Pheidole sp. ~235w ~15m, Iridomyrmex sp. 2q 1w, Brachyponera lutea 6w, Crematogaster sp. ~20w, Podomyrma sp. 1w

Queens: Polyrhachis cf. robinsoni, Polyrhachis (Campomyrma) sp. (likely infertile)

Previously Kept: Colobopsis gasseri, Technomyrmex sp., Rhytidoponera victorae, Nylanderia cf. rosae, Myrmecia brevinoda/forficata, Polyrhachis australis, Solenopsis/Monomorium

Key: Q = Queen, W = Worker, M = Major

Youtube Channel: Ants of Sydney - YouTube

Patreon (for YouTube channel): https://www.patreon.com/antsofsydney


#2 Offline eea - Posted September 15 2021 - 5:03 PM

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I think camponotus inflatus is illegal



#3 Offline Leptomyrmx - Posted September 15 2021 - 5:17 PM

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Oh, it is? I'll do some research on that.


My Ants:

Colonies: Camponotus humilior 1w, Opisthopsis rufithorax 11w, Aphaenogaster longiceps ~5w, Pheidole sp. ~235w ~15m, Iridomyrmex sp. 2q 1w, Brachyponera lutea 6w, Crematogaster sp. ~20w, Podomyrma sp. 1w

Queens: Polyrhachis cf. robinsoni, Polyrhachis (Campomyrma) sp. (likely infertile)

Previously Kept: Colobopsis gasseri, Technomyrmex sp., Rhytidoponera victorae, Nylanderia cf. rosae, Myrmecia brevinoda/forficata, Polyrhachis australis, Solenopsis/Monomorium

Key: Q = Queen, W = Worker, M = Major

Youtube Channel: Ants of Sydney - YouTube

Patreon (for YouTube channel): https://www.patreon.com/antsofsydney


#4 Offline CheetoLord02 - Posted September 15 2021 - 5:21 PM

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I do believe Camponotus inflatus are protected and illegal to collect. However Melaphorus bagoti should be fair game.

Can't help ya with flight times tho, sorry :/


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#5 Offline Leptomyrmx - Posted September 15 2021 - 5:33 PM

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Ok now the hard thing is finding what C. inflatus queens look like and getting my grandparents not to collect them lol


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My Ants:

Colonies: Camponotus humilior 1w, Opisthopsis rufithorax 11w, Aphaenogaster longiceps ~5w, Pheidole sp. ~235w ~15m, Iridomyrmex sp. 2q 1w, Brachyponera lutea 6w, Crematogaster sp. ~20w, Podomyrma sp. 1w

Queens: Polyrhachis cf. robinsoni, Polyrhachis (Campomyrma) sp. (likely infertile)

Previously Kept: Colobopsis gasseri, Technomyrmex sp., Rhytidoponera victorae, Nylanderia cf. rosae, Myrmecia brevinoda/forficata, Polyrhachis australis, Solenopsis/Monomorium

Key: Q = Queen, W = Worker, M = Major

Youtube Channel: Ants of Sydney - YouTube

Patreon (for YouTube channel): https://www.patreon.com/antsofsydney


#6 Offline Manitobant - Posted September 15 2021 - 9:26 PM

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No antkeeper has ever seen an inflatus queen and we have no idea what they look like, although bagoti has been collected a few times. You have to go WAY out into the outback to get them though.

#7 Offline Leptomyrmx - Posted September 15 2021 - 9:41 PM

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Yeah, I couldn't find pictures of inflatus. I guess you'll just never know if you're breaking the law or not until you get workers.


My Ants:

Colonies: Camponotus humilior 1w, Opisthopsis rufithorax 11w, Aphaenogaster longiceps ~5w, Pheidole sp. ~235w ~15m, Iridomyrmex sp. 2q 1w, Brachyponera lutea 6w, Crematogaster sp. ~20w, Podomyrma sp. 1w

Queens: Polyrhachis cf. robinsoni, Polyrhachis (Campomyrma) sp. (likely infertile)

Previously Kept: Colobopsis gasseri, Technomyrmex sp., Rhytidoponera victorae, Nylanderia cf. rosae, Myrmecia brevinoda/forficata, Polyrhachis australis, Solenopsis/Monomorium

Key: Q = Queen, W = Worker, M = Major

Youtube Channel: Ants of Sydney - YouTube

Patreon (for YouTube channel): https://www.patreon.com/antsofsydney


#8 Offline antgallery - Posted September 16 2021 - 11:08 AM

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No antkeeper has ever seen an inflatus queen and we have no idea what they look like, although bagoti has been collected a few times. You have to go WAY out into the outback to get them though.

This might be a stupid question but, if nobody knows what C. inflatus looks like then how is it well... a species?



#9 Offline Manitobant - Posted September 16 2021 - 11:46 AM

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No antkeeper has ever seen an inflatus queen and we have no idea what they look like, although bagoti has been collected a few times. You have to go WAY out into the outback to get them though.

This might be a stupid question but, if nobody knows what C. inflatus looks like then how is it well... a species?
myrmecologists know what they look like, and we do know what the workers look like. Its just that there are no known queen specimens that have been photographed.
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#10 Offline antgallery - Posted September 16 2021 - 12:24 PM

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No antkeeper has ever seen an inflatus queen and we have no idea what they look like, although bagoti has been collected a few times. You have to go WAY out into the outback to get them though.

This might be a stupid question but, if nobody knows what C. inflatus looks like then how is it well... a species?
myrmecologists know what they look like, and we do know what the workers look like. Its just that there are no known queen specimens that have been photographed.

 

Oh okay.







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