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camponotus pennslyvanicus... polygyne?


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#1 Offline futurebird - Posted September 7 2021 - 4:32 PM

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I'm very confused by this video from ants India that shows the eastern black carpenter ant in a colony with multiple queen AND the video says "most camponotus are poly".... not in my experience..

 

 

 


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#2 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted September 7 2021 - 4:38 PM

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The comment on the video about C. penns being poly is wrong. The video title says it is C. compressus. I'm guessing that comment is what confused you? I didn't watch the video. I decided to correct them despite this being from a year ago. Wouldn't want them trying that when they find them next year.

 

Apparently AntWiki states that they will occasionally found together, but I'm guessing it would be pleometrosis rather than polygyny.


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#3 Offline futurebird - Posted September 7 2021 - 4:49 PM

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I wish C. compressus was a common ant in the US. They are chunky little beasts... I thought the video was showing both... but the quality is low.

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#4 Offline CheetoLord02 - Posted September 7 2021 - 5:04 PM

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The first clip is most likely a mis-identification. Unless it's a 45mm test tube, those ants are simply far too small to be C. pennsylvanicus, not to mention being far outside their range. Also, there are a fair number of polygynous Camponotus, especially in the tropics, however the US isn't fortunate enough to have more than a handful of polygynous Camponotus.


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#5 Offline Manitobant - Posted September 7 2021 - 6:33 PM

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In my experience, pennsylvanicus and most other US camponotus are strictly monogynous. Queens will not even found together, and will tear each other to pieces if put together.
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#6 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted September 7 2021 - 6:53 PM

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In my experience, pennsylvanicus and most other US camponotus are strictly monogynous. Queens will not even found together, and will tear each other to pieces if put together.

There are some instances where this does not completely apply, however. C. vicinus are in some cases polygynous, and C. US-CA02 commonly found together. Just to name a few. 

 

Here is a video of a polygynous C. vicinus colony by The Ant Network: https://www.youtube....h?v=Cedp1dwYeOs


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-Camponotus sansabeanus

-Camponotus US-CA02

-Camponotus vicinus

-Formica podzolica

-Monomorium spp.

-Pogonomyrmex californicus

-Solenopsis spp. 

 


#7 Offline Manitobant - Posted September 8 2021 - 12:38 PM

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In my experience, pennsylvanicus and most other US camponotus are strictly monogynous. Queens will not even found together, and will tear each other to pieces if put together.

There are some instances where this does not completely apply, however. C. vicinus are in some cases polygynous, and C. US-CA02 commonly found together. Just to name a few. 
 
Here is a video of a polygynous C. vicinus colony by The Ant Network: 
i was mainly referring to pennsylvanicus and the other northern camponotus that are present in her state.
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