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#1 Offline ZTYguy - Posted May 2 2021 - 7:21 PM

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Here are the photos:

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#2 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted May 2 2021 - 8:50 PM

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Its definitely part of tanaemyrmex, will need good shots of the head and antennal scapes to get a positive ID.


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#3 Offline B_rad0806 - Posted May 2 2021 - 8:58 PM

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When are around where was this queen caught? Looks like Camponotus Maritimus to me 


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#4 Offline ZTYguy - Posted May 2 2021 - 9:09 PM

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#5 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 3 2021 - 6:06 AM

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This is most likely C. vicinus. C. maritimus is extremely shiny, which this specimen is not.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#6 Offline ZTYguy - Posted May 3 2021 - 9:48 AM

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Unidentified queen on right Camponotus vicinus queen on right.

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#7 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted May 12 2021 - 10:41 PM

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This is a shot in the dark, but the only other tanaemyrmex species I see on CA records that matches this remotely is Camponotus dumetorum. Maybe that’s what it is?

Could also be one of the many ‘vicinus’ varieties found everywhere :rofl:
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#8 Offline yibsi - Posted May 13 2021 - 4:57 AM

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This is a shot in the dark, but the only other tanaemyrmex species I see on CA records that matches this remotely is Camponotus dumetorum. Maybe that’s what it is?

Could also be one of the many ‘vicinus’ varieties found everywhere :rofl:

Yeah, the queen looks similar to Camponotus dumetorum, only difference is the legs aren't really the same colour, at least from the photos of C. dumetorum queens I could find.


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#9 Offline ReignofRage - Posted May 13 2021 - 3:40 PM

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If you get a better straight on picture of the face you can tell if it is C. dumetorum, the base of the antannae scape will flatten and have a bit of a protrusion; it's very obvious. Color also isn't really a good thing to go off of unless it is a very distinct coloration like C. essigi queens that have a dark second thorax scale or C. ocreatus majors having dark pigmentation on the legs.



#10 Offline nurbs - Posted May 13 2021 - 3:48 PM

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Size? Location found? Use the provided template in the pin please.

 

https://www.formicul...t-a-new-thread/

 

At first glance it looks like a dark colored C. vicinus. Have a few that look exactly like that.

 

EDIT: This is not C. dumetorum, they have long crazy fuzzy hairs, esp near the gaster.

 


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#11 Offline ZTYguy - Posted August 22 2021 - 8:42 PM

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Here are some macro shots I got and a few pano shots. Also reviving this thread cause it’s gonna have a cocoon hatch and it’s abnormally large for a nanitic.

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#12 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 22 2021 - 8:45 PM

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You need clear, in focus shots of the cheeks to easily distinguish vicinus and dumetorum. You cannot tell with these images

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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 





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