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Best Answer NickAnter , July 31 2021 - 8:00 AM

Lasius sp. Likely niger or a similar sp.

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#1 Offline Fareloch - Posted July 31 2021 - 7:46 AM

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Hey everyone!

I'm new here, and to the ant world in general. I'm trying to identify the species of the ants i found on my backyard. I used the ant wiki guide and got Zatania, but comparing my photos with the ones on antweb i think its camponotus Foreli.

What do you guys think? Where did I go wrong?

Thanks for all your help!

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#2 Offline Fareloch - Posted July 31 2021 - 7:53 AM

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Location: Lisbon, Portugal

date: 31/7/2021

Location: backyard on plants, pots and pavement

lenght: idk (really really small)

color: black with traces of brown



#3 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 31 2021 - 8:00 AM   Best Answer

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Lasius sp. Likely niger or a similar sp.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#4 Offline antsandmore - Posted July 31 2021 - 8:11 AM

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Lasius sp. Likely niger or a similar sp.otu

I think the same.

 

 

Hey everyone!

I'm new here, and to the ant world in general. I'm trying to identify the species of the ants i found on my backyard. I used the ant wiki guide and got Zatania, but comparing my photos with the ones on antweb i think its camponotus Foreli.

What do you guys think? Where did I go wrong?

Thanks for all your help!

 

camponotus are usually very big compared to other ants, but nice try iding them!


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Ants I am keeping:

 none for now, planning on being more active this year


#5 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted July 31 2021 - 8:12 AM

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Seconding Lasius, specifically subgenus Lasius


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#6 Offline Fareloch - Posted July 31 2021 - 8:16 AM

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Thank you so much guys!!! I'll keep trying to see if one day I can get it right! 


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#7 Offline Fareloch - Posted August 1 2021 - 5:56 AM

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I ended up searching a bit more. Like everyone said is a lasius but the species I think it's fuliginosus

#8 Offline JamesJohnson - Posted August 1 2021 - 11:52 AM

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Although quite possible, without a few photos underneath a microscope and a fair bit of scrutiny, it is impossible to give an ID for Lasius any more precise than the group.



#9 Offline Somethinghmm - Posted August 1 2021 - 1:16 PM

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I ended up searching a bit more. Like everyone said is a lasius but the species I think it's fuliginosus

Definitely not Lasius fuliginosus or any of the other parasitic species.


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#10 Offline GreekAnts - Posted August 1 2021 - 1:48 PM

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I would say its definitely Lasius Niger but it may be Lasius lasioides (it looks more like niger to me but I can't be too sure).

I looked all other lasius species that are native in your area in antwiki and they look way different. 


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#11 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 1 2021 - 2:14 PM

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Yes, most assuredly in the niger group. fuliginosus has a very wide, somewhat heart-shaped head, and is jet black and shiny. Unlike this specimen.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#12 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted August 1 2021 - 2:15 PM

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L. fuliginosus would be a deeper, glossier black color and would have a larger head with a distinct concavity towards the top.



#13 Offline Fareloch - Posted August 2 2021 - 2:47 AM

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Thank you so much for your replies. I'm still new to this so forgive my mistake 😅 Thanks for the clarification and explaining the difference, it will help a lot in the future




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