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[zA-Z0-9]

i found these wierd but strangely cute ants   

and I'm not 100% sure what they are could they be a new species? they seem strange enough if anyone knows what they are you could make this man very happy 

 

found: raymondville mo usa 

 

time: 2:46  pm 

 

habitat: rotted wood pile 

Edited by zA-Z0-9, July 24 2021 - 1:03 PM.

[GreekAnts]

Try using this so other members can help you out: https://www.formicul...t-a-new-thread/
basically just add location, date and time you found it and any other info you can.

[zA-Z0-9]

sorry for the bad pictures i had to put my phone on 12 zoom so the qualitys no good 

Try using this so other members can help you out: https://www.formicul...t-a-new-thread/
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ok

[Antkeeper01]

these seem to be ponerine so you should release them because they are definitely not a begginer sp possibly Ponera pensylvanica, and did you even get a queen? So please release them where you found them and these cannot be a new sp if they were i would doubt it and ponerine ants are quite cute if you ask me

[zA-Z0-9]

these seem to be ponerine so you should release them because they are definitely not a begginer sp possibly Ponera pensylvanica, and did you even get a queen? So please release them where you found them and these cannot be a new sp if they were i would doubt it and ponerine ants are quite cute if you ask me

I'm so sorry sir but you might be wrong check this out i did some research waiting for yalls respnse                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    https://www.google.c...QAAAAAdAAAAABAP

Edited by zA-Z0-9, July 24 2021 - 1:18 PM.

[PurdueEntomology]

It seems to be in the Proceratium genus.  Are you able to get any better images?  

 

https://www.antwiki....eratium_species

Edited by PurdueEntomology, July 24 2021 - 1:23 PM.

[Ecan]

these seem to be ponerine so you should release them because they are definitely not a begginer sp possibly Ponera pensylvanica, and did you even get a queen? So please release them where you found them and these cannot be a new sp if they were i would doubt it and ponerine ants are quite cute if you ask me

I'm so sorry sir but you might be wrong check this out i did some research waiting for yalls respnse https://www.google.c...QAAAAAdAAAAABAP

How is that related to the ant you found?

[Antkeeper01]

 

these seem to be ponerine so you should release them because they are definitely not a begginer sp possibly Ponera pensylvanica, and did you even get a queen? So please release them where you found them and these cannot be a new sp if they were i would doubt it and ponerine ants are quite cute if you ask me

I'm so sorry sir but you might be wrong check this out i did some research waiting for yalls respnse                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    https://www.google.c...QAAAAAdAAAAABAP

 

i know that its possible that its a new sp but heres a quote from the article"Syscia sumnichti, an ant no bigger than a grain of rice that lives in the mountains of Guatemala, Honduras and Nicarauga has been named after a biologist who now resides and works closer to the Ozark Hills." That wasnt even found in the US. 

https://www.antweb.o...t=allantwebants

https://www.antweb.o...t=allantwebants

https://www.antweb.o...t=allantwebants

that's all the known ponerine ants in your state it is more likely its one of those

(EDIT) Actually purdueEntomology is probably right.(i think you should send a specimen to a museum for identification and release the rest back where you found them

Edited by Antkeeper01, July 24 2021 - 1:34 PM.

[TexTech]

i found these wierd but strangely cute ants IMG_0247.jpgIMG_0250.jpg

and I'm not 100% sure what they are could they be a new species? they seem strange enough if anyone knows what they are you could make this man very happy 

 

found: raymondville mo usa 

 

time: 2:46  pm 

 

habitat: rotted wood pile 

This is 99% Proceratium pergandei. They eat Spider eggs, which is what those round balls are in your photos. I do believe pergandei is the only Proceratium species listed in Missouri as well. They are a cryptic species and so they are listed as "rare" as such. A good find, but not quite a new species! 

[zA-Z0-9]

 

 

these seem to be ponerine so you should release them because they are definitely not a begginer sp possibly Ponera pensylvanica, and did you even get a queen? So please release them where you found them and these cannot be a new sp if they were i would doubt it and ponerine ants are quite cute if you ask me

I'm so sorry sir but you might be wrong check this out i did some research waiting for yalls respnse                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    https://www.google.c...QAAAAAdAAAAABAP

 

i know that its possible that its a new sp but heres a quote from the article"Syscia sumnichti, an ant no bigger than a grain of rice that lives in the mountains of Guatemala, Honduras and Nicarauga has been named after a biologist who now resides and works closer to the Ozark Hills." That wasnt even found in the US. 

https://www.antweb.o...t=allantwebants

https://www.antweb.o...t=allantwebants

https://www.antweb.o...t=allantwebants

that's all the known ponerine ants in your state it is more likely its one of those

(EDIT) Actually purdueEntomology is probably right.(i think you should send a specimen to a museum for identification and release the rest back where you found them

 

yeah i know but i think i may have found an imported species and its no bigger than a grain of rice

[zA-Z0-9]

i live one hour away from the professor who discovered it maybe i can schedule an appointment

[zA-Z0-9]

 

 

these seem to be ponerine so you should release them because they are definitely not a begginer sp possibly Ponera pensylvanica, and did you even get a queen? So please release them where you found them and these cannot be a new sp if they were i would doubt it and ponerine ants are quite cute if you ask me

I'm so sorry sir but you might be wrong check this out i did some research waiting for yalls respnse https://www.google.c...QAAAAAdAAAAABAP

How is that related to the ant you found?

 

they're identical

[zA-Z0-9]

It seems to be in the Proceratium genus.  Are you able to get any better images?  

 

https://www.antwiki....eratium_species

could be and i had to zoom all the way op on my phone just to get that one 

[TexTech]

 

 

 

these seem to be ponerine so you should release them because they are definitely not a begginer sp possibly Ponera pensylvanica, and did you even get a queen? So please release them where you found them and these cannot be a new sp if they were i would doubt it and ponerine ants are quite cute if you ask me

I'm so sorry sir but you might be wrong check this out i did some research waiting for yalls respnse https://www.google.c...QAAAAAdAAAAABAP

How is that related to the ant you found?

 

they're identical

 

They are definitely Proceratium. You can tell by how the "end part of the gaster" curls back in towards the front. That is not recognized in Syscia sumnichti. 

[zA-Z0-9]

 

 

 

 

these seem to be ponerine so you should release them because they are definitely not a begginer sp possibly Ponera pensylvanica, and did you even get a queen? So please release them where you found them and these cannot be a new sp if they were i would doubt it and ponerine ants are quite cute if you ask me

I'm so sorry sir but you might be wrong check this out i did some research waiting for yalls respnse https://www.google.c...QAAAAAdAAAAABAP

How is that related to the ant you found?

 

they're identical

 

They are definitely Proceratium. You can tell by how the "end part of the gaster" curls back in towards the front. That is not recognized in Syscia sumnichti. 

 

yeah you might be right\

[Ecan]

these seem to be ponerine so you should release them because they are definitely not a begginer sp possibly Ponera pensylvanica, and did you even get a queen? So please release them where you found them and these cannot be a new sp if they were i would doubt it and ponerine ants are quite cute if you ask me

I'm so sorry sir but you might be wrong check this out i did some research waiting for yalls respnse https://www.google.c...QAAAAAdAAAAABAP

How is that related to the ant you found?

they're identical

Just because they look similar does not mean that they are the same species, and they are also clearly different species.

[Antkeeper01]

 

 

 

these seem to be ponerine so you should release them because they are definitely not a begginer sp possibly Ponera pensylvanica, and did you even get a queen? So please release them where you found them and these cannot be a new sp if they were i would doubt it and ponerine ants are quite cute if you ask me

I'm so sorry sir but you might be wrong check this out i did some research waiting for yalls respnse                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    https://www.google.c...QAAAAAdAAAAABAP

 

i know that its possible that its a new sp but heres a quote from the article"Syscia sumnichti, an ant no bigger than a grain of rice that lives in the mountains of Guatemala, Honduras and Nicarauga has been named after a biologist who now resides and works closer to the Ozark Hills." That wasnt even found in the US. 

https://www.antweb.o...t=allantwebants

https://www.antweb.o...t=allantwebants

https://www.antweb.o...t=allantwebants

that's all the known ponerine ants in your state it is more likely its one of those

(EDIT) Actually purdueEntomology is probably right.(i think you should send a specimen to a museum for identification and release the rest back where you found them

 

yeah i know but i think i may have found an imported species and its no bigger than a grain of rice

 

they wouldn't even be ably to survive in MO lol

[zA-Z0-9]

 

 

 

 

these seem to be ponerine so you should release them because they are definitely not a begginer sp possibly Ponera pensylvanica, and did you even get a queen? So please release them where you found them and these cannot be a new sp if they were i would doubt it and ponerine ants are quite cute if you ask me

I'm so sorry sir but you might be wrong check this out i did some research waiting for yalls respnse https://www.google.c...QAAAAAdAAAAABAP

How is that related to the ant you found?

they're identical

Just because they look similar does not mean that they are the same species, and they are also clearly different species.

 

yeah i know honestly i was just exited that i might have discovered something

[Antkeeper01]

 

 

 

 

How is that related to the ant you found?

they're identical

Just because they look similar does not mean that they are the same species, and they are also clearly different species.

 

yeah i know honestly i was just exited that i might have discovered something

 

you did these ants are very rare and are cryptics

[TennesseeAnts]

Congrats! You found a colony of Proceratium, possibly P. pergandei. How large are the workers in millimeters?