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Finally a Camponotus? Belgium 14 June 2021

Started By Just.J , Jun 14 2021 1:45 PM

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#1 Offline Just.J - Posted June 14 2021 - 1:45 PM

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1. Location (on a map) of collection: Mol, Belgium
2. Date of collection: 14 June 2021 11PM
3. Habitat of collection: Garden just next to a forest, calm neighbourhood, loads of farmland
4. Length (from head to gaster): about 1cm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: brown, not flat.
6. Distinguishing characteristics:
7. Distinguishing behavior:
8. Nest description:
9. Nuptial flight time and date: 14 June 2021

So long story short I've been trying my best to find a camponotus but so far only Lasius and Myrmica. I actually just ordered and collected a camponotus queen as I had given up lol. Was I too fast? Or am I completely wrong? Many thanks in advance!
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#2 Offline Just.J - Posted June 14 2021 - 1:50 PM

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Can a moderator please delete one of the double posts? Slow connection I guess created this mess. Sorry and thanks!

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#3 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 14 2021 - 7:18 PM

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This looks like Lasius to me...


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#4 Offline Just.J - Posted June 14 2021 - 8:35 PM

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Idk didn't look fat enough. Also the head is different but then again so are all the Lasius lol

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#5 Offline NPLT - Posted June 14 2021 - 11:10 PM

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Looks like Lasius flavus.


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#6 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted June 15 2021 - 4:09 AM

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Idk didn't look fat enough. Also the head is different but then again so are all the Lasius lol

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How fat they are can also depend on how much food they have eaten.


#7 Offline PurdueEntomology - Posted June 15 2021 - 4:30 AM

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Not a Camponotus and not being totally familiar with European species I would concur it may be a alate of Lasius flavus since the mesosomal length appears greater than it would be for L. alienus or L. niger


#8 Offline Just.J - Posted July 11 2021 - 9:08 AM

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Reviving the topic because maybe like this we can shed some light on the right Lasius Niger, on the left the unknown species posted above most thought to be Niger or Flavus. Does this help to identify the mistery on the left? Many thanks!!!e3df31e9225586eb1ff2e2aac48d0b13.jpg

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#9 Offline Manitobant - Posted July 11 2021 - 11:27 AM

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Reviving the topic because maybe like this we can shed some light on the right Lasius Niger, on the left the unknown species posted above most thought to be Niger or Flavus. Does this help to identify the mistery on the left? Many thanks!!!e3df31e9225586eb1ff2e2aac48d0b13.jpg
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possibly lasius umbratus? However, if that is her brood, it is not umbratus as they are parasitic.
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#10 Offline Just.J - Posted July 11 2021 - 11:42 AM

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Reviving the topic because maybe like this we can shed some light on the right Lasius Niger, on the left the unknown species posted above most thought to be Niger or Flavus. Does this help to identify the mistery on the left? Many thanks!!!e3df31e9225586eb1ff2e2aac48d0b13.jpg
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possibly lasius umbratus? However, if that is her brood, it is not umbratus as they are parasitic.
Definitely not umbratus I have those and this is not a parasitic species, it's their own brood.

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#11 Offline Manitobant - Posted July 11 2021 - 1:06 PM

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Reviving the topic because maybe like this we can shed some light on the right Lasius Niger, on the left the unknown species posted above most thought to be Niger or Flavus. Does this help to identify the mistery on the left? Many thanks!!!e3df31e9225586eb1ff2e2aac48d0b13.jpg
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possibly lasius umbratus? However, if that is her brood, it is not umbratus as they are parasitic.
Definitely not umbratus I have those and this is not a parasitic species, it's their own brood.
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oh okay. Maybe lasius brunneus then? I'm not really good with european lasius.

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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#12 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 11 2021 - 1:18 PM

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Could be L. alienus, or another of the brown Euro Lasius sp.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#13 Offline Just.J - Posted July 11 2021 - 1:23 PM

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Will it help if I do revive again when workers arrive?

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#14 Offline Manitobant - Posted July 11 2021 - 7:01 PM

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Will it help if I do revive again when workers arrive?
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it could, and i would, although many European lasius look the same.
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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/
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