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Best Answer KadinB , July 4 2021 - 11:28 AM

If this is any help the under side of her gaster is like half orange.

yea dude that's xyloni 100%. That second picture with better lighting is good and shows that orange color. 

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#1 Offline DaAnt - Posted July 2 2021 - 7:09 AM

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I found her in Arcadia, CA.  I think she’s S. Xyloni but I’m not sure.  Also, it would be awesome if someone could tell me if this queen is semi-claustral or not. Thanks! 

 
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#2 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 2 2021 - 7:30 AM

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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#3 Offline DaAnt - Posted July 2 2021 - 7:50 AM

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#4 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted July 2 2021 - 8:10 AM

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#5 Offline TestSubjectOne - Posted July 2 2021 - 8:43 AM

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Most likely, your queen is not semi-claustral, but any queen can be helped by being given food early on so there isn't any risk as long as you don't let food rot or give honey that is not soaked into a cotton ball (a drowning hazard).


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#6 Online Manitobant - Posted July 2 2021 - 3:52 PM

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To upload and add your photos, you:
 
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Most likely, your queen is not semi-claustral, but any queen can be helped by being given food early on so there isn't any risk as long as you don't let food rot or give honey that is not soaked into a cotton ball (a drowning hazard).

also note that you have to switch to PC to use the “my media” tab. It is not available on the mobile version.
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#7 Offline DaAnt - Posted July 3 2021 - 6:47 AM

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Thanks for the help everybody! (:



#8 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted July 3 2021 - 7:48 AM

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Looks to be Solenopsis but I don’t have the confidence to say it is 100% xyloni.
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#9 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 3 2021 - 7:53 AM

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#10 Online Manitobant - Posted July 3 2021 - 7:59 AM

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We need pics in better lighting, it could be solenopsis invicta. If so, you should kill it immediately, as invicta are illegal in california.

Also, most solenopsis are fully claustral, so if it is indeed xyloni, it should be quite easy to found.

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#11 Offline DaAnt - Posted July 3 2021 - 8:07 AM

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Ok



#12 Online Manitobant - Posted July 3 2021 - 10:52 AM

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The pictures still aren’t good. Put her under a light and then photograph.

#13 Offline DaAnt - Posted July 3 2021 - 12:27 PM

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#14 Offline KadinB - Posted July 3 2021 - 1:17 PM

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We need pics in better lighting, it could be solenopsis invicta. If so, you should kill it immediately, as invicta are illegal in california.

Also, most solenopsis are fully claustral, so if it is indeed xyloni, it should be quite easy to found.

bruh false. They aren't illegal to keep in California. You can legally keep them if your county is a quarantine zone and if he got it in his own county. If he were to get the queen from another county then it would be illegal if they weren't from his county then he would have to kill the queen. The only time it would be legal to keep them is if you were to get them in your county. Even if your county is a quarantine zone and you get it from another quarantined county that is Next to you it would be illegal.  

 

(USDA had told me this stuff when they came to my house for a inivcta queen i got illegally by accident)


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#15 Offline DaAnt - Posted July 4 2021 - 7:00 AM

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We need pics in better lighting, it could be solenopsis invicta. If so, you should kill it immediately, as invicta are illegal in california.

Also, most solenopsis are fully claustral, so if it is indeed xyloni, it should be quite easy to found.

bruh false. They aren't illegal to keep in California. You can legally keep them if your county is a quarantine zone and if he got it in his own county. If he were to get the queen from another county then it would be illegal if they weren't from his county then he would have to kill the queen. The only time it would be legal to keep them is if you were to get them in your county. Even if your county is a quarantine zone and you get it from another quarantined county that is Next to you it would be illegal.  

 

(USDA had told me this stuff when they came to my house for a inivcta queen i got illegally by accident)

 

 

As far as I know, if your county is a quarantine zone, you cannot transport them at all, which means you aren't allowed to even pick them up. I don't remember exactly where I got that particular information, but MIkey (AntsCanada) and I were contacted by the CDFA once years ago.



#17 Online Manitobant - Posted July 4 2021 - 9:16 AM

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Is this picture good?

solenopsis invicta I think. Kill it immediately, they are illegal to keep.

#18 Offline KadinB - Posted July 4 2021 - 10:07 AM

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Is this picture good?

solenopsis invicta I think. Kill it immediately, they are illegal to keep.
no that looks like xyloni because of all the orange on it.


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#19 Offline KadinB - Posted July 4 2021 - 10:07 AM

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Is this picture good?

solenopsis invicta I think. Kill it immediately, they are illegal to keep.
no that looks like xyloni because of all the orange on it.


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#20 Offline KadinB - Posted July 4 2021 - 10:09 AM

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We need pics in better lighting, it could be solenopsis invicta. If so, you should kill it immediately, as invicta are illegal in california.

Also, most solenopsis are fully claustral, so if it is indeed xyloni, it should be quite easy to found.

bruh false. They aren't illegal to keep in California. You can legally keep them if your county is a quarantine zone and if he got it in his own county. If he were to get the queen from another county then it would be illegal if they weren't from his county then he would have to kill the queen. The only time it would be legal to keep them is if you were to get them in your county. Even if your county is a quarantine zone and you get it from another quarantined county that is Next to you it would be illegal.

(USDA had told me this stuff when they came to my house for a inivcta queen i got illegally by accident)

As far as I know, if your county is a quarantine zone, you cannot transport them at all, which means you aren't allowed to even pick them up. I don't remember exactly where I got that particular information, but MIkey (AntsCanada) and I were contacted by the CDFA once years ago.
Oh alright I can text one of the guys that came and ask them about this just to be sure.


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