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[KadinB]

So I didn’t feed my Pogonomyrmex Californicus queens any meat for about 4 days and I went to feed them and I have a really good batch I had of three queens. When I went to check on them and one queen died and was cut in half and the last two were fighting right when I checked on them. There was one queen with her mandibles around the other queens neck about to decapitate her but I fed them some protein and idk how they are now. They also just got larva so I believe they killed the other queen to get protein. Then I have another with 2 queens. The other died of natural causes. I checked on them and they were really aggressive near each other and would lunge out at each other trying to fight over the brood pile. I believe they should be good now after I fed them protein. Those two queens has a ton of larva and 1 very big larva that’s almost pupa to.


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Edited by KadinB, June 24 2021 - 8:16 AM.

[OhNoNotAgain]

Maybe yours are just not very happy being put together? I have never had a poly/pleo group of P. calis, but I will say my P. subnits never got meat (they did have some seeds available) and have never fought. They have had a 50% mortality rate, but it was not from fighting. I currently have two second year colonies of P. subnits,  both with two queens. I understand poly/pleo and such can be very much regional and is probably a small genetic difference, but that little genetic switch makes a huge difference.

 

Personally speaking, I would separate queens out who have shown aggressive tendencies. You don't want them to kill each other.

Edited by OhNoNotAgain, June 24 2021 - 11:59 AM.

[ReignofRage]

P. californicus, in most cases, are monogynous or pleometrotic and will kill each other eventually. They don't need protein, but they do need seeds.

[Nanahira]

Mostly depends on region I think. The  P.calis in my region have never even attempted to hurt each other even after handling hundreds year after year.

[KadinB]

They were together for about a month and than this happened and idk where they are from I bought them from someone else


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[yaboiseth]

They were together for about a month and than this happened and idk where they are from I bought them from someone else


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Were they the ones you bought from me? I have not had a single successful multiple queen founding from the queens I have caught. Mine always kill eachother eventually, usually within the first few days to weeks.

[strawnkayden1]

They were together for about a month and than this happened and idk where they are from I bought them from someone else


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Were they the ones you bought from me? I have not had a single successful multiple queen founding from the queens I have caught. Mine always kill eachother eventually, usually within the first few days to weeks.

Uh oh, I just put mine together. It might work better because their in tubs n tubes?

[yaboiseth]

 

 

They were together for about a month and than this happened and idk where they are from I bought them from someone else


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Were they the ones you bought from me? I have not had a single successful multiple queen founding from the queens I have caught. Mine always kill eachother eventually, usually within the first few days to weeks.

Uh oh, I just put mine together. It might work better because their in tubs n tubes?

How many did you put together? I do just have horrible luck with my Pogonomyrmex so you might have some success. 

[KadinB]

They were together for about a month and than this happened and idk where they are from I bought them from someone else


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Were they the ones you bought from me? I have not had a single successful multiple queen founding from the queens I have caught. Mine always kill eachother eventually, usually within the first few days to weeks.

Uh oh, I just put mine together. It might work better because their in tubs n tubes?

How many did you put together? I do just have horrible luck with my Pogonomyrmex so you might have some success.

3 queens and those queens were from someone else.


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[strawnkayden1]

They were together for about a month and than this happened and idk where they are from I bought them from someone else


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Were they the ones you bought from me? I have not had a single successful multiple queen founding from the queens I have caught. Mine always kill eachother eventually, usually within the first few days to weeks.

Uh oh, I just put mine together. It might work better because their in tubs n tubes?

How many did you put together? I do just have horrible luck with my Pogonomyrmex so you might have some success.

5 then another with 6.

[KadinB]

They were together for about a month and than this happened and idk where they are from I bought them from someone else


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Were they the ones you bought from me? I have not had a single successful multiple queen founding from the queens I have caught. Mine always kill eachother eventually, usually within the first few days to weeks.

Uh oh, I just put mine together. It might work better because their in tubs n tubes?

How many did you put together? I do just have horrible luck with my Pogonomyrmex so you might have some success.

3 queens and those queens were from someone else.


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oops thought that was going to me didn’t read above


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[strawnkayden1]

Ask on ake
Hahahahaha nvm forgot

[yaboiseth]

 

 

 

 

They were together for about a month and than this happened and idk where they are from I bought them from someone else


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Were they the ones you bought from me? I have not had a single successful multiple queen founding from the queens I have caught. Mine always kill eachother eventually, usually within the first few days to weeks.

Uh oh, I just put mine together. It might work better because their in tubs n tubes?

How many did you put together? I do just have horrible luck with my Pogonomyrmex so you might have some success.

5 then another with 6.

 

Hm. There arent any signs of aggression already? Most of mine showed aggression almost immediately.

[strawnkayden1]

They were together for about a month and than this happened and idk where they are from I bought them from someone else


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Were they the ones you bought from me? I have not had a single successful multiple queen founding from the queens I have caught. Mine always kill eachother eventually, usually within the first few days to weeks.

Uh oh, I just put mine together. It might work better because their in tubs n tubes?

How many did you put together? I do just have horrible luck with my Pogonomyrmex so you might have some success.

5 then another with 6.

Hm. There arent any signs of aggression already? Most of mine showed aggression almost immediately.

Only one was aggressive but it looked exactly like prenos meeting.

[yaboiseth]

They were together for about a month and than this happened and idk where they are from I bought them from someone else


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Were they the ones you bought from me? I have not had a single successful multiple queen founding from the queens I have caught. Mine always kill eachother eventually, usually within the first few days to weeks.

Uh oh, I just put mine together. It might work better because their in tubs n tubes?

How many did you put together? I do just have horrible luck with my Pogonomyrmex so you might have some success.

5 then another with 6.

Hm. There arent any signs of aggression already? Most of mine showed aggression almost immediately.

Only one was aggressive but it looked exactly like prenos meeting.

Hm. I may take some of my new ones and experiment some more. Keep me updated on them

[strawnkayden1]

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Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]Were they the ones you bought from me? I have not had a single successful multiple queen founding from the queens I have caught. Mine always kill eachother eventually, usually within the first few days to weeks.[/quote]Uh oh, I just put mine together. It might work better because their in tubs n tubes?[/quote]How many did you put together? I do just have horrible luck with my Pogonomyrmex so you might have some success.[/quote]5 then another with 6.
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Hm. There arent any signs of aggression already? Most of mine showed aggression almost immediately.[/quote]
Only one was aggressive but it looked exactly like prenos meeting.[/quote]
Hm. I may take some of my new ones and experiment some more. Keep me updated on them[/quote]
Will do