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Best founding formicarium for Pogonomyrmex?


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#1 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted June 12 2021 - 11:06 AM

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Are test tubes better for founding Pogonomyrmex californicus, or THA mini hearths?

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#2 Offline TylrsAnts - Posted June 12 2021 - 11:21 AM

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I would say mini hearths (make sure you have the side outworld and not the top). 



#3 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted June 12 2021 - 11:26 AM

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I would say mini hearths (make sure you have the side outworld and not the top).

Oh, do they not use the top outworld?

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#4 Offline JenC - Posted June 12 2021 - 12:11 PM

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Top is able to work.
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#5 Offline SleepyAsianAnter - Posted June 12 2021 - 12:16 PM

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They found perfectly fine in test tubes with a little bit of sand and plenty of seeds. The issue is heat, they need a lot of heat to found
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#6 Offline yaboiseth - Posted June 12 2021 - 12:22 PM

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Personally, I have seen more progress in tube setups with sand and seeds than a mini hearth. 


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#7 Offline CheetoLord02 - Posted June 12 2021 - 12:55 PM

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For founding a solo queen, just use a test tube with some sand. Most small formicaria are just too large for a single queen, and a test tube works just fine. Moving young colonies is quite easy, so it's usually not worth it to start in the larger nest.

Once she gets a large enough colony to warrant a nest, there's a few options. If you're dead-set on THA, a Mini Hearth with a side outworld is great (top works too, but I just prefer the side for species that aren't good climbers) or an Inception Chamber.

If not dead set on THA, why not check out one of my nests on arthropodantics.com! I've tested them with Pogonomyrmex and they work quite nicely, and aren't nearly as expensive as THA.


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#8 Offline cocdeshijie - Posted June 12 2021 - 1:11 PM

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I found like this.

 

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#9 Offline Spazmops - Posted June 13 2021 - 1:10 PM

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I founded a P. occidentalis queen in a mini hearth and it worked great. The queen occasionally went into the outworld and gathered some seeds I had put there, but it would have been easier for her and her eventual workers if it had a side outworld. The top still worked, they just fell a lot.


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#10 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted June 13 2021 - 8:13 PM

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They found perfectly fine in test tubes with a little bit of sand and plenty of seeds. The issue is heat, they need a lot of heat to found

Thanks, what’s the ideal temp for P. calis?


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#11 Offline TylrsAnts - Posted June 14 2021 - 5:13 PM

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I keep my P. Calis at 90F. However, many people keep them at lower temperatures just fine. I would say 85F would be a safe temperature of Calis. 

 

Edit: Grammar 


Edited by TylrsAnts, June 14 2021 - 5:14 PM.





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