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Multiple Queens from Greece


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#1 Offline alex-barty - Posted June 11 2021 - 5:32 AM

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Hey guys this is a repost of a few queens with a little bit better pictures.I'll start with my oldest one and the species still is a mystery.
Found on October 31st
Found on a mountain with little to no vegetation a day after a big rainstorm.Queen and workers are totally black.Suspected messor sp. but they seem to ignore all of the seeds my messor get crazy about and tear up meal worms and small flies.The queen even accepted a small fly when she had no workers at all and ate it whole.Even at this stage with 4 workers they ignore seeds.Will post more queens in the comments

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#2 Offline alex-barty - Posted June 11 2021 - 5:34 AM

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Suspected camponotus sp. Found on 19th of May with her wings shed at the lowest part of a mountain with Forests all around.She has a deep red colour and seems real calm all the time

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#3 Offline alex-barty - Posted June 11 2021 - 5:38 AM

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Found on april 29th with her wings shed.She is real tiny 3-5 mm and seems to be totally black.I posted some pictures on another thread and the sp. Carebara oertzeni was mentioned although its really hard to take good pictures because of her size.She was found on the lower part of a mountain with forrests.She moves real slow and i've never seen her panic

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#4 Offline alex-barty - Posted June 11 2021 - 5:40 AM

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Found on the 2nd of May.Suspected messor sp.It took her about a month in the test tube to lay eggs.She has a lot of hairs throughout her body.She has a deep red colour and is very active and ready to bite whenever the test tube is disturbed.Found on an army camp with little to no trees and big patches of grass.

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#5 Offline alex-barty - Posted June 11 2021 - 5:42 AM

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Found around the 15th of April.Suspected messor sp. She is totally black and constantly takes care of her eggs.She was also found on an army camp with patches of grass and very few trees.She is the biggest queen I have,easily 1.5 cm I also found her after a couple of days of raining

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#6 Offline ANTS_KL - Posted June 11 2021 - 5:46 AM

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1st is Aphaenogaster. 2nd is Camponotus but idk sp. 3rd is either Carebara or monomorium, again, not sure on sp. 4th seems like either messor or veromessor sp. 5th is messor sp. All these are purely guesses so correct me if I'm wrong.

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Currently kept ant species, favorites have a star in front of their names (NOT in alphabetical order, also may be outdated sometimes): Camponotus irritans inferior, Ooceraea biroi, Pheidole parva, Nylanderia sp., Paraparatrechina tapinomoides, Platythyrea sp., Anochetus sp., Colobopsis sp. (cylindrica group), Crematogaster ferrarii, Polyrhachis (Myrma) cf. pruinosa, Polyrhachis (Cyrtomyrma) laevissima, Tapinoma sp. (formerly Zatapinoma)

Death count: Probably over a hundred individual queens and colonies by now. I cannot recall whatsoever.

#7 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 11 2021 - 6:18 AM

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1) Aphaenogaster sp.

2) Camponotus(Myrmentoma) sp.

3)I personally think this could very well be a Solenopsis sp.(you have 4 in Greece if you include a subspecies.), but, C. oertzeni is still quite likely.

4) Messor sp.

5)Messor sp.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#8 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted June 11 2021 - 8:20 AM

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1st is Aphaenogaster. 2nd is Camponotus but idk sp. 3rd is either Carebara or monomorium, again, not sure on sp. 4th seems like either messor or veromessor sp. 5th is messor sp. All these are purely guesses so correct me if I'm wrong.

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Veromessor don't live in Europe btw, only Messor.



#9 Offline ANTS_KL - Posted June 11 2021 - 6:21 PM

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1st is Aphaenogaster. 2nd is Camponotus but idk sp. 3rd is either Carebara or monomorium, again, not sure on sp. 4th seems like either messor or veromessor sp. 5th is messor sp. All these are purely guesses so correct me if I'm wrong.

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Veromessor don't live in Europe btw, only Messor.
Oh then it's messor

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YouTube: https://m.youtube.co...uKsahGliSH7EqOQ (It's pretty dead. Might upload again soon, don't expect my voice to sound the same though.)

Currently kept ant species, favorites have a star in front of their names (NOT in alphabetical order, also may be outdated sometimes): Camponotus irritans inferior, Ooceraea biroi, Pheidole parva, Nylanderia sp., Paraparatrechina tapinomoides, Platythyrea sp., Anochetus sp., Colobopsis sp. (cylindrica group), Crematogaster ferrarii, Polyrhachis (Myrma) cf. pruinosa, Polyrhachis (Cyrtomyrma) laevissima, Tapinoma sp. (formerly Zatapinoma)

Death count: Probably over a hundred individual queens and colonies by now. I cannot recall whatsoever.

#10 Offline alex-barty - Posted June 13 2021 - 9:51 AM

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Thank you all for checking this thread:)




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