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My First Species ID Request

Started By Orion8 , May 31 2021 4:25 PM

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#1 Offline Orion8 - Posted May 31 2021 - 4:25 PM

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Hi, I just got my first queen, and need to know what species so I know how to care for it.
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#2 Offline Orion8 - Posted May 31 2021 - 4:27 PM

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PS I will post pictures as soon as I can.

Edited by Orion8, May 31 2021 - 4:36 PM.

#3 Offline Orion8 - Posted May 31 2021 - 4:40 PM

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Pics:

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#4 Offline Zeiss - Posted May 31 2021 - 4:47 PM

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Please take the time to read this post and give us all the information we need.  It's put at the top of everything for a reason.

 

https://www.formicul...t-a-new-thread/

 

This helps us help you as quickly as possible and giving the most accurate identification.


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#5 Offline ANTS_KL - Posted May 31 2021 - 7:18 PM

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I'm gonna need better head pics to ID and pls use the format given for ID requests

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Edited by ANTS_KL, May 31 2021 - 7:19 PM.

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Young ant keeper with a decent amount of knowledge on local ant species.

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Currently kept ant species, favorites have a star in front of their names (NOT in alphabetical order, also may be outdated sometimes): ★ Camponotus irritans inferior, ★ Ooceraea biroi, Pheidole parva, ★ Nylanderia sp., ★ Paraparatrechina tapinomoides, Platythyrea sp., Anochetus sp., Colobopsis sp. (cylindrica group), ★ Crematogaster ferrarii, Polyrhachis (Myrma) cf. pruinosa, Polyrhachis (Cyrtomyrma) laevissima, Tapinoma sp. (formerly Zatapinoma)

Death count: Probably over a hundred individual queens and colonies by now. I cannot recall whatsoever.

#6 Offline Manitobant - Posted May 31 2021 - 7:35 PM

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Also where was this found? What country and what state?
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#7 Offline Orion8 - Posted June 1 2021 - 10:08 AM

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I live in north Mississippi, not very far from Tennessee, and I posted this on may 31, 2021, although I found the pictured queen 9 days earlier.

It was collected in Olive Branch, Mississippi, on may 22. It was found in my backyard, and I don’t have a ruler but the queen was about 1/3 the length of the pad of your finger. It has a shiny green body and an almost champagne colored gaster, and was otherwise normal as far as queens go. I am not sure what time it was found and I can’t find the nest is came from. Also, I am sorry about the picture quality as these where taken with my phone camera.
I live in north Mississippi, not very far from Tennessee, and I posted this on may 31, 2021, although I found the pictured queen 9 days earlier.

It was collected in Olive Branch, Mississippi, on may 22. It was found in my backyard, and I don’t have a ruler but the queen was about 1/3 the length of the pad of your finger. It has a shiny green body and an almost champagne colored gaster, and was otherwise normal as far as queens go. I am not sure what time it was found and I can’t find the nest is came from. Also, I am sorry about the picture quality as these where taken with my phone camera.

#8 Offline Manitobant - Posted June 1 2021 - 10:32 AM

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I'm gonna guess solenopsis invicta based on location, however we really need better photos.
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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#9 Offline Orion8 - Posted June 1 2021 - 10:57 AM

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I didn’t think of it being a fire ant because of the color, but your the expert. Also, these photos are from my phone camera so that explains the quality but I will try to get better ones. In the meanwhile, what should I do as far as care?

#10 Offline Manitobant - Posted June 1 2021 - 11:35 AM

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I didn’t think of it being a fire ant because of the color, but your the expert. Also, these photos are from my phone camera so that explains the quality but I will try to get better ones. In the meanwhile, what should I do as far as care?

just keep her in a dark place and check once a week or so.
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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#11 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted June 1 2021 - 11:41 AM

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This is Solenopsis invicta x richteri. Very common in our area.


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#12 Offline Orion8 - Posted June 1 2021 - 12:09 PM

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Here are some more Photos so you can be sure.

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#13 Offline Manitobant - Posted June 1 2021 - 12:45 PM

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It does still look like invicta to me, however, the photos are still bad. We need ones showing the color of the ant
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#14 Offline Orion8 - Posted June 1 2021 - 1:05 PM

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Unfortunately, I do not have a better camera, but as far as I can tell by eye she has a black gaster and rust colored thorax and back muscles.

#15 Offline Manitobant - Posted June 1 2021 - 2:36 PM

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Unfortunately, I do not have a better camera, but as far as I can tell by eye she has a black gaster and rust colored thorax and back muscles.

yeah definitely invicta then. Good luck, these things grow VERY fast.
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#16 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 1 2021 - 2:41 PM

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We do not know the length or location of this specimen. You cannot even get this down to genus. Many Myrmecine queens look very similar. Please just follow the template. Its not that hard.

 

Terribly sorry. I had not refreshed the page, and the post that was posted at 11:08 AM was not visible to me.


Edited by NickAnter, June 1 2021 - 2:53 PM.

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

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I live in north Mississippi, not very far from Tennessee, and I posted this on may 31, 2021, although I found the pictured queen 9 days earlier.

It was collected in Olive Branch, Mississippi, on may 22. It was found in my backyard, and I don’t have a ruler but the queen was about 1/3 the length of the pad of your finger. It has a shiny green body and an almost champagne colored gaster, and was otherwise normal as far as queens go. I am not sure what time it was found and I can’t find the nest is came from. Also, I am sorry about the picture quality as these where taken with my phone camera.
I live in north Mississippi, not very far from Tennessee, and I posted this on may 31, 2021, although I found the pictured queen 9 days earlier.

It was collected in Olive Branch, Mississippi, on may 22. It was found in my backyard, and I don’t have a ruler but the queen was about 1/3 the length of the pad of your finger. It has a shiny green body and an almost champagne colored gaster, and was otherwise normal as far as queens go. I am not sure what time it was found and I can’t find the nest is came from. Also, I am sorry about the picture quality as these where taken with my phone camera.

 

 

We do not know the length or location of this specimen. You cannot even get this down to genus. Many Myrmecine queens look very similar. Please just follow the template. Its not that hard.

He gave the information later. I agree that this is Solenopsis invicta or the hybrid, S. invicta x richteri


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#18 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 1 2021 - 2:54 PM

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I live in north Mississippi, not very far from Tennessee, and I posted this on may 31, 2021, although I found the pictured queen 9 days earlier.

It was collected in Olive Branch, Mississippi, on may 22. It was found in my backyard, and I don’t have a ruler but the queen was about 1/3 the length of the pad of your finger. It has a shiny green body and an almost champagne colored gaster, and was otherwise normal as far as queens go. I am not sure what time it was found and I can’t find the nest is came from. Also, I am sorry about the picture quality as these where taken with my phone camera.
I live in north Mississippi, not very far from Tennessee, and I posted this on may 31, 2021, although I found the pictured queen 9 days earlier.

It was collected in Olive Branch, Mississippi, on may 22. It was found in my backyard, and I don’t have a ruler but the queen was about 1/3 the length of the pad of your finger. It has a shiny green body and an almost champagne colored gaster, and was otherwise normal as far as queens go. I am not sure what time it was found and I can’t find the nest is came from. Also, I am sorry about the picture quality as these where taken with my phone camera.

 

 

We do not know the length or location of this specimen. You cannot even get this down to genus. Many Myrmecine queens look very similar. Please just follow the template. Its not that hard.

He gave the information later. I agree that this is Solenopsis invicta or the hybrid, S. invicta x richteri

 

didn't see that post, hadn't refreshed the page. Edited post.

 

I too agree with the identification.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#19 Offline Orion8 - Posted June 2 2021 - 11:00 AM

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I figure I will know for sure when there are workers, as they may be easier to ID based on color and such, since Solonopsis Invicta x Richteri has a wider range of colors and other small differences.
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