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Can you help ID?

Started By Just.J , Jun 2 2021 12:38 PM

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#1 Offline Just.J - Posted June 2 2021 - 12:38 PM

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I know the photo is terrible quality but Id be happy with the an idea of what she might be. Found in Belgium about 9mm. No idea if it was mated, some guys were cutting the grass and I saw her running for her life and just picked her up. She wouldn't survive anyways she was headed to a parking lot where trucks come and go 24/7.


1. Location (on a map) of collection: Belgium, Overijse.
2. Date of collection: 2nd of June
3. Habitat of collection: Parking lot (was living on a side habitat with Ivy, grass and earth.
4. Length (from head to gaster): About 9mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Brownish, can't recognise pattens, some dented stripes without color change.
6. Distinguishing characteristics: alongated gaster that ends in an abrupt spike
7. Distinguishing behavior: none noted
8. Nest description: no idea
9. Nuptial flight time and date: no idea

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#2 Offline Just.J - Posted June 2 2021 - 12:53 PM

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A slightly better picture. 4c3b8d00ba164aa0d365cc867df7dbb9.jpg

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#3 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 2 2021 - 12:55 PM

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Can we get a top-down picture? Also, in regards to lighting, holding or setting down a flashlight at a 45-degree angle to the tube generally creates good lighting.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#4 Offline Just.J - Posted June 2 2021 - 1:22 PM

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Can we get a top-down picture? Also, in regards to lighting, holding or setting down a flashlight at a 45-degree angle to the tube generally creates good lighting.

Here you go, I did my best :)c8228ee181c66bd4f536d233d653bb1f.jpg0fe080aeeab3fa6957dca56bb973e779.jpg3c41edcf4a2fd2a4d69ce87221cc5b46.jpge2db854beab4968987884b08f4820167.jpg

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#5 Offline Manitobant - Posted June 2 2021 - 1:29 PM

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Lasius. Very weird how they flew this early.
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Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#6 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 2 2021 - 1:30 PM

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I'm kind of stumped on this one... I would say Lasius, but the mesosoma looks really thin.

Yeah, probably Lasius, no idea what species though.

 

Maybe this is one of the more obscure species?


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#7 Offline Just.J - Posted June 2 2021 - 1:34 PM

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Well, hopefully we will know in 1 month, if she has indeed completed her flight which I honestly very much doubt lol. I'll update anyways, workers or no workers.

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#8 Offline VoidElecent - Posted June 2 2021 - 2:19 PM

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This reminds me of Plagiolepis, but is probably definitely too large.


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#9 Offline Just.J - Posted June 3 2021 - 10:08 AM

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She got rid of her wings! That has to be a good sign right? Does this help with IDing? Sorry still very new to this.57c7865639525cb50eec10fd4270499e.jpg6a1a2e84479c2b53bc030de1e43a742d.jpg

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#10 Offline yibsi - Posted June 4 2021 - 8:33 AM

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She got rid of her wings! That has to be a good sign right? Does this help with IDing? Sorry still very new to this.57c7865639525cb50eec10fd4270499e.jpg6a1a2e84479c2b53bc030de1e43a742d.jpg
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Doesn’t really help in ID that much, but does help in the sense that this suggest she completed her nuptial flight, which can kind of help us understand the species, but as said before lasius generally don’t fly this early. The fact that she bit her wings off is a good sign that she’s mated and will have workers, congrats!
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#11 Offline Just.J - Posted June 4 2021 - 9:43 AM

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She got rid of her wings! That has to be a good sign right? Does this help with IDing? Sorry still very new to this.57c7865639525cb50eec10fd4270499e.jpg6a1a2e84479c2b53bc030de1e43a742d.jpg
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Doesn’t really help in ID that much, but does help in the sense that this suggest she completed her nuptial flight, which can kind of help us understand the species, but as said before lasius generally don’t fly this early. The fact that she bit her wings off is a good sign that she’s mated and will have workers, congrats!
Great news then! Thank you! Ill update when workers arrive!

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