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Ontario, California - 5/24/21

Started By BrandonM , May 24 2021 8:29 PM

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#1 Offline BrandonM - Posted May 24 2021 - 8:29 PM

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1. Location of collection: Ontario, California
2. Date of collection: 2/24/21
3. Habitat of collection: Suburban backyard via black light.
4. Length: 6mm
5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture: Dark, golden brown.
6. Distinguishing characteristics: N/A
7. Anything else distinctive: N/A
8. Nest description: Unknown
9. Nuptial flight time and date: 5/24/21 @ 8:30pm. Hundreds of males, 4 queens thus far.

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#2 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 24 2021 - 8:54 PM

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Solenopsis molesta. Supposedly these common socal thief ants in the molesta group are not actually molesta, however, for now, they are still called that.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#3 Offline BrandonM - Posted May 24 2021 - 9:07 PM

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Solenopsis molesta. Supposedly these common socal thief ants in the molesta group are not actually molesta, however, for now, they are still called that.


Thank you for the quick response! Looking them up, they appear to be fully-claustral and “Mildly polygynous”. So I’ll keep them separate. Thanks again!


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#4 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted May 25 2021 - 3:45 AM

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Solenopsis molesta. Supposedly these common socal thief ants in the molesta group are not actually molesta, however, for now, they are still called that.


Thank you for the quick response! Looking them up, they appear to be fully-claustral and “Mildly polygynous”. So I’ll keep them separate. Thanks again!


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I'm pretty sure they are more polygynous the further south they are, but that may be wrong. I thought I heard that somewhere a long time ago...


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#5 Offline BrandonM - Posted May 25 2021 - 4:51 AM

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Interesting! If I’m lucky enough to capture some more, I will try it out to see if Ontario, Cali is “south enough” for them to get along together.

Thank you for the additional info!


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#6 Offline Chickalo - Posted May 25 2021 - 5:34 AM

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Solenopsis molesta. Supposedly these common socal thief ants in the molesta group are not actually molesta, however, for now, they are still called that.


Thank you for the quick response! Looking them up, they appear to be fully-claustral and “Mildly polygynous”. So I’ll keep them separate. Thanks again!


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I'm pretty sure they are more polygynous the further south they are, but that may be wrong. I thought I heard that somewhere a long time ago...

 

I thought it was the other way around?  Oh well...


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シグナチャーです。예.

 

#7 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted May 25 2021 - 5:36 AM

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Solenopsis molesta. Supposedly these common socal thief ants in the molesta group are not actually molesta, however, for now, they are still called that.


Thank you for the quick response! Looking them up, they appear to be fully-claustral and “Mildly polygynous”. So I’ll keep them separate. Thanks again!


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I'm pretty sure they are more polygynous the further south they are, but that may be wrong. I thought I heard that somewhere a long time ago...

 

I thought it was the other way around?  Oh well...

 

Maybe. I honestly don't remember where I had seen that, so I can't confirm.


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#8 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 25 2021 - 5:52 AM

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Its an East vs. West divide. These ones will eventually tear each other to shreds until there is one queen remaining.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#9 Offline BrandonM - Posted May 25 2021 - 6:02 AM

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Its an East vs. West divide. These ones will eventually tear each other to shreds until there is one queen remaining.


As a novice, I’ll keep the queens as individual founding colonies. From what I’ve read since last night, they are not the easiest species to keep in captivity. Eliminating one “death variable” is ideal, since I will probably be able to kill them without any outside help.


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#10 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted May 25 2021 - 6:23 AM

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Its an East vs. West divide. These ones will eventually tear each other to shreds until there is one queen remaining.

I see, thanks. I had a feeling something I said was wrong.


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