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Found in Virginia, northern .. smaller than the average Camponotus


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#1 Offline Lillyrose - Posted May 11 2021 - 5:15 PM

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I've been told these are either

Camponotus Caryae or Camponotus nearcticus

Can you help me figure out which?

Sadly I forgot to measure her before putting her away.. but she's rather small. Smaller than castaneus and pennsylvanicus but bigger than formica ...

I found her between two bags of mulch .. slightly moist ...

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#2 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 11 2021 - 5:50 PM

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I agree that this is a Myrmentoma group Camponotus queen, but we’re going to need slightly better photos of you want to get much further than that.

#3 Offline Lillyrose - Posted May 11 2021 - 6:05 PM

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I agree that this is a Myrmentoma group Camponotus queen, but we’re going to need slightly better photos of you want to get much further than that.


Ok ...I will try to take better pictures once once has workers...

Is there anything specifically I should take pictures of? Or just more clear?

#4 Offline ANTS_KL - Posted May 11 2021 - 6:34 PM

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I agree that this is a Myrmentoma group Camponotus queen, but we’re going to need slightly better photos of you want to get much further than that.

I agree.

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#5 Offline Aaron567 - Posted May 11 2021 - 8:01 PM

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Yes, this is going to be either C. caryae or C. nearcticus. The only way to definitively differentiate them is by looking around the sides of the head to see if they have erect hair. The sides & front of the head and face of C. caryae are abundant in standing hairs, while in nearcticus you will see little pores that completely lack any noticeable hair at all. You don't necessarily need special camera equipment to see this, but you will need more clear photos than those.

 

Examples:

Link to Camponotus caryae queen

Link to Camponotus nearcticus queen


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