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[SYUTEO]

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Malaysia
2. Date of collection: sometime in December
3. Habitat of collection: countryside
4. Length (from head to gaster): about 2-3 mm, major is about 4-5 mm, queen is about 6 mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: a shiny black color, the queen is a dark brown color
6. Distinguishing characteristics: cocooned pupae, one tiny petiole node, large repletes, polymorphic
7. Distinguishing behavior: lifts gaster above their head and thorax when threatened, runs very fast (similar to Paratrechina longicornis), sprays formic acid
8. Nest description: 

9. Nuptial flight time and date: December-February (possibly also year round)

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[ANTS_KL]

I suspect they are a formicine genera however I'm stumped on this... As a person who finds lots of ants and goes to laces like forest reserves to find them I have never seen anything like these. Maybe try and get closeups on a worker. Kinda look like the prenolepis sp in Malaysia tho ngl

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[SYUTEO]

This is the closest I could get.

 

Edited by SYUTEO, May 12 2021 - 11:47 PM.

[ANTS_KL]

Question, where did you find them SYUTEO?

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[ANTS_KL]

I feel it is Prenolepis subopaca. You can compare them here. https://antwiki.org/...olepis_subopaca

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[Kaelwizard]

I feel it is Prenolepis subopaca. You can compare them here. https://antwiki.org/...olepis_subopaca

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Based on the pictures, the head shape and thorax are a lot different.

[ANTS_KL]

I feel it is Prenolepis subopaca. You can compare them here. https://antwiki.org/...olepis_subopaca

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Based on the pictures, the head shape and thorax are a lot different.

However I am unable to find any other ant like this. I searched antweb, antwiki, and the termitesandants blog. They look nothing like any ant species I have seen. Maybe it could be a new discovery! But he clearly stated it was a formicine ant so I'm gonna keep looking for an ID

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[Kaelwizard]

 

 

I feel it is Prenolepis subopaca. You can compare them here. https://antwiki.org/...olepis_subopaca

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Based on the pictures, the head shape and thorax are a lot different.

However I am unable to find any other ant like this. I searched antweb, antwiki, and the termitesandants blog. They look nothing like any ant species I have seen. Maybe it could be a new discovery! But he clearly stated it was a formicine ant so I'm gonna keep looking for an ID

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I'm going to guess it is a Nylanderia species. Completely unsure which one though.

[ANTS_KL]

I feel it is Prenolepis subopaca. You can compare them here. https://antwiki.org/...olepis_subopaca

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Based on the pictures, the head shape and thorax are a lot different.

However I am unable to find any other ant like this. I searched antweb, antwiki, and the termitesandants blog. They look nothing like any ant species I have seen. Maybe it could be a new discovery! But he clearly stated it was a formicine ant so I'm gonna keep looking for an ID

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I'm going to guess it is a Nylanderia species. Completely unsure which one though.

Nope. I have a colony of nylanderia krapelini and I can confirm they are not nylanderia. Nylanderia do not have such a pronounced petiole. I've only seen a long petiole like this in Oecophylla smaragdina and longinoda. And a few prenolepis sp have it too, subopaca being one of them. And the abdomen is fairly similar however the ants found by SYUTEO are way too bulky

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[Kaelwizard]

 

 

 

 

I feel it is Prenolepis subopaca. You can compare them here. https://antwiki.org/...olepis_subopaca

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Based on the pictures, the head shape and thorax are a lot different.

However I am unable to find any other ant like this. I searched antweb, antwiki, and the termitesandants blog. They look nothing like any ant species I have seen. Maybe it could be a new discovery! But he clearly stated it was a formicine ant so I'm gonna keep looking for an ID

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I'm going to guess it is a Nylanderia species. Completely unsure which one though.

Nope. I have a colony of nylanderia krapelini and I can confirm they are not nylanderia. Nylanderia do not have such a pronounced petiole. I've only seen a long petiole like this in Oecophylla smaragdina and longinoda. And a few prenolepis sp have it too, subopaca being one of them. And the abdomen is fairly similar however the ants found by SYUTEO are way too bulky

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I feel like I have to figure this out, but I can't lol.

[ANTS_KL]

I feel it is Prenolepis subopaca. You can compare them here. https://antwiki.org/...olepis_subopaca

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Based on the pictures, the head shape and thorax are a lot different.

However I am unable to find any other ant like this. I searched antweb, antwiki, and the termitesandants blog. They look nothing like any ant species I have seen. Maybe it could be a new discovery! But he clearly stated it was a formicine ant so I'm gonna keep looking for an ID

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I'm going to guess it is a Nylanderia species. Completely unsure which one though.

Nope. I have a colony of nylanderia krapelini and I can confirm they are not nylanderia. Nylanderia do not have such a pronounced petiole. I've only seen a long petiole like this in Oecophylla smaragdina and longinoda. And a few prenolepis sp have it too, subopaca being one of them. And the abdomen is fairly similar however the ants found by SYUTEO are way too bulky

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I feel like I have to figure this out, but I can't lol.

Same!

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[SYUTEO]

Question, where did you find them SYUTEO?

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Kuala Selangor, Malaysia

[ANTS_KL]

Question, where did you find them SYUTEO?

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Kuala Selangor, Malaysia

I meant habitat. Did you get them in a log? Or a founding queen? Or dug up?

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[SYUTEO]

 

 

Question, where did you find them SYUTEO?

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Kuala Selangor, Malaysia

I meant habitat. Did you get them in a log? Or a founding queen? Or dug up?

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In my grandma's garden, I caught her while she was walking around trying to find a place to hide

[ANTS_KL]

Question, where did you find them SYUTEO?

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Kuala Selangor, Malaysia

I meant habitat. Did you get them in a log? Or a founding queen? Or dug up?

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In my grandma's garden, I caught her while she was walking around trying to find a place to hide

Ok. Now I'm really stumped. Do the majors look different from the workers apart from size?

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[SYUTEO]

 

 

 

 

Question, where did you find them SYUTEO?

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Kuala Selangor, Malaysia

I meant habitat. Did you get them in a log? Or a founding queen? Or dug up?

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In my grandma's garden, I caught her while she was walking around trying to find a place to hide

Ok. Now I'm really stumped. Do the majors look different from the workers apart from size?

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The only difference I can find is that the top of the majors head is very slightly concaved in.

[Ferox_Formicae]

These appear to be Lepisiota rothneyi. I'm no expert on Malaysian ants though, so take that ID with a grain of salt.

[VoidElecent]

Also not an expert on Malaysian ants, but I think Euprenolepis matches up nicely.

[Ferox_Formicae]

Also not an expert on Malaysian ants, but I think Euprenolepis matches up nicely.

Euprenolepis seems to be a lot more lanky with prominent setae throughout and long antennal scapes.

[ANTS_KL]

Also not an expert on Malaysian ants, but I think Euprenolepis matches up nicely.

Eupronolepis procera are the only species in Malaysia so it's incredibly unlikely

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