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Camponotus Modoc or Pennsylvanicus?

Started By TacticalHandleGaming , May 6 2021 5:10 AM

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#1 Offline TacticalHandleGaming - Posted May 6 2021 - 5:10 AM

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Camponotus started flying in my area last night. Found 5 Queens in my driveway that basically all were walking around/landed at my feet. I'm not very sure exactly what species they are. I put most of them in test tube setups, and one of them is in a THA mini hearth. Would really appreciate help IDing them.

 

 

 

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L. neoniger, P. occidentalis, C. modoc, C. novaeboracensis, C. vicinus, T. immigrans, A. occidentalis, S. molesta, P. imparis, M. kennedyi, M semirufus, F. pacifica, P. californica, M. ergatogyna.

 

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#2 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted May 6 2021 - 5:13 AM

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A side view would help if at all possible. It looks to me like her legs are quite red (which I believe is an indicator of it being C. modoc?), however I'm not sure if that is a good way to identify them.


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#3 Offline TacticalHandleGaming - Posted May 6 2021 - 5:25 AM

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A side view would help if at all possible. It looks to me like her legs are quite red (which I believe is an indicator of it being C. modoc?), however I'm not sure if that is a good way to identify them.

I'll try and get a good side view tonight after work. The other photos I took all came out fuzzy.  :( 


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Currently kept species

L. neoniger, P. occidentalis, C. modoc, C. novaeboracensis, C. vicinus, T. immigrans, A. occidentalis, S. molesta, P. imparis, M. kennedyi, M semirufus, F. pacifica, P. californica, M. ergatogyna.

 

Previously kept species

T. rugatulus, B. depilis.

 

Looking for

Myrmecocystus pyramicus, Myrmecocystus testaceus

Pheidole creightoni, Pheidole inquilina, Crematogaster coarctata, Crematogaster mutans

My youtube channel.  My ant Etsy store - Millennium Ants

#4 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted May 6 2021 - 7:41 AM

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C. modoc and C. pennsylvanicus are morphologically nearly identical, but if they were found in Oregon then they are most likely Camponotus modoc.


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#5 Offline ZTYguy - Posted May 6 2021 - 8:05 AM

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I second YsTheAnt in saying it is C. modoc. It also has quite red legs. 


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#6 Offline AntBoi3030 - Posted May 6 2021 - 8:55 AM

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That's difficult but id say modoc


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#7 Offline B_rad0806 - Posted May 6 2021 - 9:08 AM

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Just based off location I would say Modoc


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#8 Offline TacticalHandleGaming - Posted May 6 2021 - 7:05 PM

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Forgive the yet again lackluster photos. I'm thinking you guys are correct. Camponotus Modoc seems more likely. (Especially since I know they have a colony on my property somewhere.)

 

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L. neoniger, P. occidentalis, C. modoc, C. novaeboracensis, C. vicinus, T. immigrans, A. occidentalis, S. molesta, P. imparis, M. kennedyi, M semirufus, F. pacifica, P. californica, M. ergatogyna.

 

Previously kept species

T. rugatulus, B. depilis.

 

Looking for

Myrmecocystus pyramicus, Myrmecocystus testaceus

Pheidole creightoni, Pheidole inquilina, Crematogaster coarctata, Crematogaster mutans

My youtube channel.  My ant Etsy store - Millennium Ants

#9 Offline ZTYguy - Posted May 6 2021 - 8:00 PM

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Yeah I’m 99% sure that’s C. modoc. My queen looks just like that. 


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#10 Offline JoeByron - Posted May 6 2021 - 10:21 PM

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Is that a minihearth? 

I just picked up one, I'm just nervous to put a queen to found inside it. Will be my first time away from the test tube set up --- my luck she won't be fertile haha


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#11 Offline AntsBC - Posted May 6 2021 - 10:29 PM

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Camponotus modoc


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#12 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted May 7 2021 - 3:40 AM

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Is that a minihearth? 

I just picked up one, I'm just nervous to put a queen to found inside it. Will be my first time away from the test tube set up --- my luck she won't be fertile haha

Looks like it. I have my Prenolepis queens in one together and they are doing fine. It's just really spacious for smaller species. Large species like Camponotus or Formica would do fine in them probably. I'm pretty sure Mack himself founds his Camponotus queens in mini hearths actually.


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#13 Offline yibsi - Posted May 7 2021 - 8:04 AM

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Most likely C. Modoc, especially since your in Oregon, C. Pennsylvanicus is generally only found on the east coast and in some areas in the midwest.


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    Formica pallidifulva - 1 queen, 8-10 eggs

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#14 Offline Chickalo - Posted May 7 2021 - 8:06 AM

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pennsylvanicus also has a hairy gaster, her's is shiny.  Topped with the red legs, it's definitely Modoc (and yes, I know I'm very late)


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#15 Offline AntBoi3030 - Posted May 8 2021 - 5:37 AM

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I think modoc is slightly smaller


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