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help ID this colony pls =)


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#1 Offline Crazycow - Posted May 4 2021 - 4:51 PM

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1. Location (on a map) of collection: Waterville woodland area Washington state 
2. Date of collection: may 4 2021
3. Habitat of collection: forest in a piece of small wood 
4. Length (from head to gaster): N/A
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture:  the queen is solid black and the workers are a red and black color 
6. Distinguishing characteristics: N/A
7. Distinguishing behavior: N/A
8. Nest description: i found them in a small piece of wood next to a carpenter ant colony 

9. Nuptial flight time and date: N/A
 

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#2 Offline Chickalo - Posted May 4 2021 - 5:11 PM

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I need better pics


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#3 Online ANTdrew - Posted May 4 2021 - 5:12 PM

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It is Doubleus posteus.
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#4 Offline Crazycow - Posted May 4 2021 - 8:02 PM

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It is Doubleus posteus.

i looked it up and I'm not finding anything on that species 



#5 Online Zeiss - Posted May 4 2021 - 8:16 PM

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It is Doubleus posteus.

i looked it up and I'm not finding anything on that species 

He is making a joke because you posted the same thing twice.  Just click once and it will go through.

 

As for an ID, you need larger images that can show off the ants and the best measurements you can get.  If you take a picture with your smart phone, most have a minimum focal length of 3-4 inches away from the subject.  Get a lot of lighting in there too.  Try not to zoom in too much or else you will get grainy pictures.


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#6 Offline Otrebor707 - Posted May 4 2021 - 8:46 PM

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It is Doubleus posteus.

i looked it up and I'm not finding anything on that species
He is making a joke because you posted the same thing twice.  Just click once and it will go through.
 
As for an ID, you need larger images that can show off the ants and the best measurements you can get.  If you take a picture with your smart phone, most have a minimum focal length of 3-4 inches away from the subject.  Get a lot of lighting in there too.  Try not to zoom in too much or else you will get grainy pictures.
I always use video with light on then I screen shot the best frame
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#7 Offline Crazycow - Posted May 5 2021 - 8:06 AM

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It is Doubleus posteus.

i looked it up and I'm not finding anything on that species
He is making a joke because you posted the same thing twice. Just click once and it will go through.

As for an ID, you need larger images that can show off the ants and the best measurements you can get. If you take a picture with your smart phone, most have a minimum focal length of 3-4 inches away from the subject. Get a lot of lighting in there too. Try not to zoom in too much or else you will get grainy pictures.
I always use video with light on then I screen shot the best frame
Sounds good I will take some better pictures today and post them in this topic later today

#8 Offline Crazycow - Posted May 5 2021 - 11:23 AM

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here are some better pictures 

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#9 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 5 2021 - 12:31 PM

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Can you get a clear photo of the queen? From the workers I can narrow it down to the genera Temnothorax, Leptothorax, or Myrmica, with the latter being less likely.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#10 Offline Crazycow - Posted May 5 2021 - 1:46 PM

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Can you get a clear photo of the queen? From the workers I can narrow it down to the genera Temnothorax, Leptothorax, or Myrmica, with the latter being less likely.

yeah i can try, she likes to stay on the wall so its hard to get one. she also is solid black if that help any.



#11 Offline Crazycow - Posted May 5 2021 - 1:51 PM

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Can you get a clear photo of the queen? From the workers I can narrow it down to the genera Temnothorax, Leptothorax, or Myrmica, with the latter being less likely.

yeah i can try, she likes to stay on the wall so its hard to get one. she also is solid black if that help any.

 

here are some better pics of the queen. lmk if you need any better.

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#12 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 5 2021 - 2:12 PM

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OK, looks like a Temnothorax species.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#13 Offline Crazycow - Posted May 5 2021 - 2:36 PM

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OK, looks like a Temnothorax species.

Ok thank you




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