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Camponotus novaeboracensis or Camponotus herculeanus


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#1 Offline RequiredField - Posted May 12 2021 - 1:29 PM

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Hey everyone, have had this queen in the tube for about 2 weeks now. At first I was convinced she was of the novaeboracensis variety. Trouble is I'm now leaning towards herculeanus with being how she's about an inch and a half long. What are your thoughts?

 

1. Location (on a map) of collection:
 
PA, suburb outside Philadelphia.
 
 
 
2. Date of collection:
 
May 1st 2021 Morning/Afternoon.
 
 
 
3. Habitat of collection:
 
Running along siding of my house (House is extremely old and definitely has rotting spots.)
 
 
 
4. Length (from head to gaster):
 
Approx. 1.5”
 
 
 
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture:
 
Black head & thorax, red/brownish black gaster, red under gaster & thorax.
 
 
 
6. Distinguishing characteristics:
 
Massive.
 
 
 
7. Distinguishing behavior:
 
 
 
8. Nest description:
 
 
 
9. Nuptial flight time and date:

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#2 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted May 12 2021 - 1:39 PM

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Looks like C. Herculeanus. C. Novaeboracensis usually have more red on their middle section. Nice catch!


Ants are Pets, not Pests. 

 

-Camponotus sansabeanus

-Camponotus US-CA02

-Camponotus vicinus

-Formica podzolica

-Monomorium spp.

-Pogonomyrmex californicus

-Solenopsis spp. 

 


#3 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 12 2021 - 2:07 PM

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How did you rule out Camponotus chromaiodes?



#4 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted May 12 2021 - 2:58 PM

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How did you rule out Camponotus chromaiodes?

Huh, your right. I guess we'll find out when her first workers arrive. 


Ants are Pets, not Pests. 

 

-Camponotus sansabeanus

-Camponotus US-CA02

-Camponotus vicinus

-Formica podzolica

-Monomorium spp.

-Pogonomyrmex californicus

-Solenopsis spp. 

 


#5 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 12 2021 - 3:28 PM

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How did you rule out Camponotus chromaiodes?

C. chromaiodes would be my guess, too.
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#6 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 12 2021 - 3:41 PM

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Yes, this is most likely C. chromaiodes


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#7 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted May 13 2021 - 3:39 AM

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Looks like C. Herculeanus. C. Novaeboracensis usually have more red on their middle section. Nice catch!

Isn't C. herculeanus European? I also agree with C. chromaiodes.


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#8 Offline NPLT - Posted May 13 2021 - 5:46 AM

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Looks like C. Herculeanus. C. Novaeboracensis usually have more red on their middle section. Nice catch!

Isn't C. herculeanus European? I also agree with C. chromaiodes.

 

According to AntMaps it occurs as far into North America as New Mexico.


Um, uh, Ants!

 

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#9 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted May 13 2021 - 7:08 AM

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100% C. chromaiodes


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