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[Toasterofdoom]

Why did I hear something like this from Toaster: keep your gecko on sand! If it licks the sand you are not keeping it properly!

Like, seriously? Also, leos live on limestone rocks in the wild, so a rough tile would probably be the best substrate for them. On a side note, I have had my leo on a UTH since like 2009 with no issues whatsoever.

I did not say that. I said to keep it on a Topsoil/Sand mix. The gecko can lick the dirt safely with the right temperatures. Also, geckos do burrow, so tile is not the absolute best substrate. 

[Kaelwizard]

Why did I hear something like this from Toaster: keep your gecko on sand! If it licks the sand you are not keeping it properly!

Like, seriously? Also, leos live on limestone rocks in the wild, so a rough tile would probably be the best substrate for them. On a side note, I have had my leo on a UTH since like 2009 with no issues whatsoever.

I did not say that. I said to keep it on a Topsoil/Sand mix. The gecko can lick the dirt safely with the right temperatures. Also, geckos do burrow, so tile is not the absolute best substrate.

Temperature doesn’t affect whether or not an organism can eat something it isn’t supposed to. That’s not how the digestive system works. Sure heat speeds up the digestive process, but you can’t eat a rock on a hot day and expect to digest it.

[Toasterofdoom]

 

 

Why did I hear something like this from Toaster: keep your gecko on sand! If it licks the sand you are not keeping it properly!

Like, seriously? Also, leos live on limestone rocks in the wild, so a rough tile would probably be the best substrate for them. On a side note, I have had my leo on a UTH since like 2009 with no issues whatsoever.

I did not say that. I said to keep it on a Topsoil/Sand mix. The gecko can lick the dirt safely with the right temperatures. Also, geckos do burrow, so tile is not the absolute best substrate.

Temperature doesn’t affect whether or not an organism can eat something it isn’t supposed to. That’s not how the digestive system works. Sure heat speeds up the digestive process, but you can’t eat a rock on a hot day and expect to digest it.

 

They can pass the substrate safely with the right temps because they can only properly digest things by being heated properly. 

[Antcatcherpro3]

There is right temp.

[Toasterofdoom]

There is right temp.

Then youre ready to go for loose substrate, or go with the tile. But you should at least add a dig box (60/40 topsoil sand mix) to add enrichment.

[Antcatcherpro3]

ok. i'm going with tile.

[Toasterofdoom]

ok. i'm going with tile.

That works too. Also, i noticed that you only have one hide (that's also too big). Leos need at least 3 hides, a warm hide, a moist hide, and a cool hide. May I ask how big you enclosure is? It does look rather small, but I'm bad at guessing sizes. 

[Kaelwizard]

If you already saw my question, I get why you did and I get that some things needed to be cleared up.

Edited by Kaelwizard, March 17 2021 - 12:03 PM.

[Antcatcherpro3]

I have 2 hides. One on the cold side and one on the warm. 

[Kaelwizard]

 

ok. i'm going with tile.

That works too. Also, i noticed that you only have one hide (that's also too big). Leos need at least 3 hides, a warm hide, a moist hide, and a cool hide. May I ask how big you enclosure is? It does look rather small, but I'm bad at guessing sizes. 

 

Why three hides? I just moisturize one when Kaimen is in shed. I don't think I have space for another one, but maybe when we redecorate his enclosure...

[Antcatcherpro3]

My enclousre is big enough.

[Toasterofdoom]

 

 

ok. i'm going with tile.

That works too. Also, i noticed that you only have one hide (that's also too big). Leos need at least 3 hides, a warm hide, a moist hide, and a cool hide. May I ask how big you enclosure is? It does look rather small, but I'm bad at guessing sizes. 

 

Why three hides? I just moisturize one when Kaimen is in shed. I don't think I have space for another one, but maybe when we redecorate his enclosure...

 

that works too I suppose, but sometimes a gecko can go in shed when you for example aren't home for that week, so its better to have a moist hide just in case.

[Toasterofdoom]

My enclousre is big enough.

"Big enough" can mean a lot of things, as people still believe that 10 gallons is enough. The recommended minimum is 40 gallons.

[Kaelwizard]

 

 

 

ok. i'm going with tile.

That works too. Also, i noticed that you only have one hide (that's also too big). Leos need at least 3 hides, a warm hide, a moist hide, and a cool hide. May I ask how big you enclosure is? It does look rather small, but I'm bad at guessing sizes. 

 

Why three hides? I just moisturize one when Kaimen is in shed. I don't think I have space for another one, but maybe when we redecorate his enclosure...

 

that works too I suppose, but sometimes a gecko can go in shed when you for example aren't home for that week, so its better to have a moist hide just in case.

 

I'll keep it in mind.

[Kaelwizard]

 

My enclousre is big enough.

"Big enough" can mean a lot of things, as people still believe that 10 gallons is enough. The recommended minimum is 40 gallons.

 

I think mine might actually be in a 10 gallon. I had a 40 gallon for my beardie (that we gave to a rescue) but my brother uses it for his blue tongue. I can positively say that it hasn't stunted his growth or anything. He is probably slightly longer than some I have seen in larger tanks.

[Toasterofdoom]

 

 

My enclousre is big enough.

"Big enough" can mean a lot of things, as people still believe that 10 gallons is enough. The recommended minimum is 40 gallons.

 

I think mine might actually be in a 10 gallon. I had a 40 gallon for my beardie (that we gave to a rescue) but my brother uses it for his blue tongue. I can positively say that it hasn't stunted his growth or anything. He is probably slightly longer than some I have seen in larger tanks.

 

A 40 gallon is too small for a beardie and a bts, they both need 120 gallons. Like with leos, reptifiles ( https://reptifiles.com) has a good care guide on them (yes I love that site lmao).

Edited by Toasterofdoom, March 17 2021 - 12:47 PM.

[Kaelwizard]

 

 

 

My enclousre is big enough.

"Big enough" can mean a lot of things, as people still believe that 10 gallons is enough. The recommended minimum is 40 gallons.

 

I think mine might actually be in a 10 gallon. I had a 40 gallon for my beardie (that we gave to a rescue) but my brother uses it for his blue tongue. I can positively say that it hasn't stunted his growth or anything. He is probably slightly longer than some I have seen in larger tanks.

 

A 40 gallon is too small for a beardie and a bts, they both need 120 gallons. Like with leos, reptifiles ( https://reptifiles.com) has a good care guide on them (yes I love that site lmao).

 

Well, it is simply impossible for me to provide that for them. I'm sorry if you hate me for it lol, but I don't have a choice in the matter.

 

He is actually in a 15 gallon, but that isn't much of an improvement.

Edited by Kaelwizard, March 17 2021 - 2:33 PM.

[Antcatcherpro3]

Okkkk! I get that your giving me advice, but to me it seems that you are saying almost everything with the tank that coconut in is wrong or needs to be changed. She is in a good size tank, and I am putting slate down soon.

 

 

My enclousre is big enough.

"Big enough" can mean a lot of things, as people still believe that 10 gallons is enough. The recommended minimum is 40 gallons.

 

[Swirlysnowflake]

 

Okkkk! I get that your giving me advice, but to me it seems that you are saying almost everything with the tank that coconut in is wrong or needs to be changed. She is in a good size tank, and I am putting slate down soon.

 

 

My enclousre is big enough.

"Big enough" can mean a lot of things, as people still believe that 10 gallons is enough. The recommended minimum is 40 gallons.

 

 

It’s becuase some things need to be fixed. A 10 gal for an adult leopard gecko is too small, please upgrade to at least a twenty. It’s hard to get a temp gradient in a 10 gallon as well...