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THA can now ship Formica subsericea

Started By ANTdrew , Feb 15 2021 10:03 AM

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#1 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 15 2021 - 10:03 AM

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Check this out:
https://tarheelants....colony-adoption


Edited by ANTdrew, February 15 2021 - 6:31 PM.

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#2 Offline Manitobant - Posted February 15 2021 - 10:14 AM

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Interesting. Do you think the USDA will fully deregulate them?
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#3 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 15 2021 - 10:18 AM

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I wonder!? Doesn’t help that is probably one of the most misidentified species. Very interesting in any case.
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#4 Offline gcsnelling - Posted February 15 2021 - 10:26 AM

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Marvelous, simply marvelous. :facepalm:


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#5 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 15 2021 - 10:39 AM

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What are your concerns, Dr. Snelling? They only seem to have two colonies available.
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#6 Offline NickAnter - Posted February 15 2021 - 11:43 AM

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I think this is a move in the right direction. Now, I think deregulating species that are native to every single contiguous state would make more sense, but, after all, it is the government, so what do you expect?


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#7 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 15 2021 - 12:08 PM

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Hey, guys-
Mack wanted me to point out that this is a very different situation than the deregulation of Pogonomyrmex occidentalis. THA obtained permits to sell these for specific reasons. USDA has not deregulated this species. Should be fun colonies for anyone lucky enough to get them.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#8 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted February 15 2021 - 12:36 PM

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Doesn't the buyer also require a permit? Sorry I'm just really confused.


#9 Offline Manitobant - Posted February 15 2021 - 12:46 PM

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Also i just want to add to the thread that his price of 60$ for a queen and 4-6 nanitics is insane, especially considering how common subsericea are. I literally give queens of this species out for free sometimes for reference.

Edited by Manitobant, February 15 2021 - 12:46 PM.

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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#10 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 15 2021 - 2:21 PM

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Also i just want to add to the thread that his price of 60$ for a queen and 4-6 nanitics is insane, especially considering how common subsericea are. I literally give queens of this species out for free sometimes for reference.

Well, Formica are like gold where I live, so it’s all relative.
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#11 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted February 15 2021 - 3:45 PM

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Nevermind about my question above. It sounds like the buyer doesn't need one as long as they aren't moving the ants out of the state they are shipped to.


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#12 Offline gs5248 - Posted February 15 2021 - 3:48 PM

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It is really unfortunate they cannot ship to California. :(


#13 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted February 15 2021 - 3:49 PM

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It is really unfortunate they cannot ship to California. :(

Yeah, from what I have heard you can't really ship anything alive there.


#14 Offline AleeGuy - Posted February 15 2021 - 4:06 PM

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Check this out:
https://tarheelants....colony-adoption

That actually happened 8 days ago if I remember correctly. I'm really curious how the process happened because it is like an opposite of how it usually happens(usually the buyer have to get the permit and specify where the buyer is getting them from). That is really great that USDA letting people such as Mack do this kind of stuff in my opinion, and hope to see more species get semi-deregulated(if we can say it like that, because it is technically not deregulated)!

Doesn't the buyer also require a permit? Sorry I'm just really confused.

No, well usually the buyer should get the permit, but in this type of permit, that Mack got, you don't have to get the permit if you're buying formica subsericea from him.

#15 Offline manik - Posted February 15 2021 - 4:29 PM

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hi, how long do your ants take to ship ?


#16 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted February 15 2021 - 4:37 PM

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hi, how long do your ants take to ship ?

 

He's not the one selling the ants.


He travels, he seeks the p a r m e s a n.

#17 Offline manik - Posted February 15 2021 - 4:55 PM

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hi, how long do your ants take to ship ?

 

He's not the one selling the ants.

 

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#18 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted February 15 2021 - 5:13 PM

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hi, how long do your ants take to ship ?

 

He's not the one selling the ants.

 

copy

 

What?


He travels, he seeks the p a r m e s a n.

#19 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 15 2021 - 5:57 PM

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Yeah, I’m not the Drew that runs this forum, nor do I ship Formica anywhere.
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#20 Offline NickAnter - Posted February 15 2021 - 6:04 PM

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Drew with bald guy as profile pic=forum administator.

 

Drew with smurf as profile pic=English teacher from Virginia who has the most reputation points on the forum.

 

Hope this clears everything up :D


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

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