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Stigmatomma in California

Started By antsandmore , Feb 1 2021 5:20 PM
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#1 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 1 2021 - 5:20 PM

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I know there are stigmatomma in California, but has anyone seen them in person? I think this is a very interesting genus, and want to know.


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#2 Offline NickAnter - Posted February 1 2021 - 8:16 PM

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I have seen one male at night while in the Sierras. If you want to find them, your best bet would be up North. Finding queens on a blacklight is super difficult from my understanding, as it usually only attracts males. Queens are best found in rotting wood, or under stones. In Southern California, both of these habitats with higher humidity are uncommon, and as such they are less common down here(no one has found them to my knowledge). In short, it's a long shot. Finding Strumigenys is probably more likely(I personally was able to find a queen).


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#3 Offline Manitobant - Posted February 1 2021 - 9:09 PM

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Stigmatomma are much more common in NorCal than SoCal. There are a few records around San Francisco.
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#4 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 2 2021 - 8:15 AM

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Stigmatomma are much more common in NorCal than SoCal. There are a few records around San Francisco.

I figured. too bad that I won't go that far up north... NorCal people need to keep their eyes open! btw are strumigenys really tiny and red? i've seen something like that in my neighborhood... almost the size of brachymyrmex. probably not tho


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#5 Offline NickAnter - Posted February 2 2021 - 8:25 AM

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If you have seen them walking around, most likely Ph. navigans, a common suburban species. I found my Strumigenys queen in the pool on a warm evening.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#6 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 2 2021 - 8:30 AM

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If you have seen them walking around, most likely Ph. navigans, a common suburban species. I found my Strumigenys queen in the pool on a warm evening.

the thing is they're different... didn't look like pheidole, although a possibility


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#7 Offline NickAnter - Posted February 2 2021 - 8:44 AM

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They may well be Strumigenys if they aren't Pheidole. Pictures would be ideal(even phone pictures).


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#8 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 2 2021 - 9:11 AM

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They may well be Strumigenys if they aren't Pheidole. Pictures would be ideal(even phone pictures).

ya i was trying to find them in the same place again, but can't see them :( don't know where they went


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#9 Offline Syber_ant - Posted February 2 2021 - 12:29 PM

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I've seen alot


#10 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 2 2021 - 12:36 PM

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I've seen alot

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#11 Offline ponerinecat - Posted February 2 2021 - 2:08 PM

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Males are very common here, females not so much. Been after them for a couple years now. But yeah, oregonense is supposedly relatively common in higher altitude pine forests and pallipes is sporadically spread across the entirety of the state.


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#12 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 2 2021 - 2:41 PM

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Males are very common here, females not so much. Been after them for a couple years now. But yeah, oregonense is supposedly relatively common in higher altitude pine forests and pallipes is sporadically spread across the entirety of the state.

man your one of the only people here that actually look for species rarely kept If you happen to catch a pseudomyrmex I would definitely be interested!!!(also stigmatomma)


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#13 Offline ponerinecat - Posted February 2 2021 - 7:04 PM

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Males are very common here, females not so much. Been after them for a couple years now. But yeah, oregonense is supposedly relatively common in higher altitude pine forests and pallipes is sporadically spread across the entirety of the state.

man your one of the only people here that actually look for species rarely kept If you happen to catch a pseudomyrmex I would definitely be interested!!!(also stigmatomma)

 

I've found 2 pseudos by now, both along the same railroad, but they never laid.  :/


#14 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 3 2021 - 8:28 AM

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Males are very common here, females not so much. Been after them for a couple years now. But yeah, oregonense is supposedly relatively common in higher altitude pine forests and pallipes is sporadically spread across the entirety of the state.

man your one of the only people here that actually look for species rarely kept If you happen to catch a pseudomyrmex I would definitely be interested!!!(also stigmatomma)

 

I've found 2 pseudos by now, both along the same railroad, but they never laid.  :/

 

awwwwwwwwwwww man... keep me updated please :)


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#15 Offline Syber_ant - Posted February 3 2021 - 9:14 AM

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I've seen alot

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yea!


#16 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 3 2021 - 9:45 AM

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I've seen alot

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yea!

 

ok... if you've seen them, you're lucky! Can you describe what they look like and take a picture next time you see them? these are also one of the coolest ants there are for me. (cool ants to me: Myrmecocystus, Odontomachus, Pseudomyrmex, Acromyrmex, Stigmatomma, much more)


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#17 Offline ponerinecat - Posted February 3 2021 - 2:38 PM

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I've seen alot

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yea!

 

The usual males or females?


#18 Offline Syber_ant - Posted February 5 2021 - 9:19 AM

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I've seen alot

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yea!

 

The usual males or females?

 

Both!


#19 Offline Syber_ant - Posted February 5 2021 - 9:23 AM

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I've seen alot

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yea!

 

ok... if you've seen them, you're lucky! Can you describe what they look like and take a picture next time you see them? these are also one of the coolest ants there are for me. (cool ants to me: Myrmecocystus, Odontomachus, Pseudomyrmex, Acromyrmex, Stigmatomma, much more)

 

they look like Pheidole but more bulky bigger jaws


#20 Offline Syber_ant - Posted February 5 2021 - 9:29 AM

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Once on a anting trip a kid ran up to me and showed me a Stigmatommma queen justin a takeout box in the middle of china town i said to be careful woth it


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