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Camponotus Queen 1-15-2021

Started By M_Ants , Jan 15 2021 9:16 PM

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#1 Offline M_Ants - Posted January 15 2021 - 9:16 PM

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Went looking for Ca02 today. Stricky said they might fly so I went to a local trail. Saw lots of some sort of Camponotus species. They have big majors and were everywhere. I found this queen at around 6pm. The queen isn't Ca02 but what is she?

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Edited by M_Ants, April 3 2024 - 5:44 PM.

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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#2 Offline cocdeshijie - Posted January 15 2021 - 9:55 PM

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vicinus?


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#3 Offline M_Ants - Posted January 15 2021 - 10:01 PM

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Could it be dumetorum?


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#4 Offline NickAnter - Posted January 16 2021 - 8:19 AM

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I would guess either vicinus or dumetorum. Not sure you can go down to species without really close-up images.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#5 Offline M_Ants - Posted January 16 2021 - 8:31 AM

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K. Close ups of anything in particular?


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#6 Offline Guest_StrickyAnts_* - Posted January 16 2021 - 11:02 AM

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https://www.antwiki....otus_dumetorum 
https://www.antwiki....onotus_vicinus 
 


#7 Offline M_Ants - Posted January 16 2021 - 11:06 AM

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Yeah. I looked at those. The only thing it mentioned is something about some hairs which are only present on vicinus. If I understood it correctly. "Hairs and pubescence as in the typical vicinus, yellow, the former absent on the cheeks"

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Edited by M_Ants, January 16 2021 - 11:14 AM.

Veromessor pergandei

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Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

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#8 Offline Guest_StrickyAnts_* - Posted January 16 2021 - 11:15 AM

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I say vicinus. 


#9 Offline M_Ants - Posted January 16 2021 - 11:32 AM

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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#10 Offline Guest_StrickyAnts_* - Posted January 16 2021 - 12:23 PM

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yeah, vicinus majors for sure. 


#11 Offline M_Ants - Posted January 16 2021 - 3:08 PM

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I still don't think I got a good enough photo of the hairs.


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Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

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https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#12 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 16 2021 - 4:18 PM

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I can see what appears to be pubescence near the mandibular insertions, dumetorum seems like a batter match. But yeah improved photos are needed to confirm.


#13 Offline NickAnter - Posted January 16 2021 - 5:52 PM

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I'm going to agree with dumetorum. Not 100% sure, but , as ponerinecat said, their does appear to be more hairs on the malar region near the mandible than is seen in vicinus.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#14 Offline M_Ants - Posted January 16 2021 - 6:01 PM

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Better photos coming.


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Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#15 Offline M_Ants - Posted January 16 2021 - 6:24 PM

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K it's actually hard to get a good photo.


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#16 Offline Solenoqueen - Posted January 16 2021 - 9:44 PM

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If you look closely at the second image, there is a tuft of hair, albeit rather blurry, on the “cheeks” of the ant.

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#17 Offline Spazmops - Posted January 17 2021 - 9:19 PM

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If you zoom in on the left ‘cheek’ of the second photo there’s a pretty clear tuft of hair, so I think it’s dumetorum. I’m still pretty bad at identification however.

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