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Pheidole ID request - Alexandria, VA

Started By ANTdrew , Jul 21 2020 9:24 AM

Best Answer Antkid12 , July 21 2020 - 12:46 PM

Pheidole davisi maybe?

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#1 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 21 2020 - 9:24 AM

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1. Dora Kelly Nature Park, along side a stream.

2. Date: 7/21/20

3. Habitat: Riparian habitat along a stream

4. Length: about 6mm-7mm

5. Color: Reddish brown with lighter bands on gaster

6. Dealate found at 10:30am wandering on a paved trail.

 

 


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#2 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 21 2020 - 12:20 PM

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Bueller? Bueller?
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#3 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 21 2020 - 12:46 PM   Best Answer

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Pheidole davisi maybe?


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Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#4 Offline AntsBC - Posted July 21 2020 - 12:53 PM

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Pheidole pilifera group at the least.  Maybe Pheidole bicarinata?  According to AntMaps, there are only six Pheidole species present in Virginia (Pheidole bicarinata, Pheidole davisi, Pheidole dentata, Pheidole morrisii, Pheidole pilifera and Pheidole tysoni), so maybe those knowledgeable with the genus could narrow it down.  Admittedly, I am not that familiar with Pheidole classification.


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#5 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 21 2020 - 12:56 PM

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Seems a bit big for Pheidole bicarinata though.


Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#6 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 21 2020 - 12:59 PM

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It’s bigger and more robust than my bicarinata. The waist is thicker as well.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#7 Offline Aaron567 - Posted July 21 2020 - 1:00 PM

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She looks weird for bicarinata, with how large and bulky her head looks. I would first consider davisi or pilifera. Good thing it'll be easier to tell when she has workers, and especially majors.


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#8 Offline CheetoLord02 - Posted July 21 2020 - 4:07 PM

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She looks weird for bicarinata, with how large and bulky her head looks. I would first consider davisi or pilifera. Good thing it'll be easier to tell when she has workers, and especially majors.

I agree that this is not bicarinata. bicarinata fly at night and would scarcely be found in the morning, not to mention 6-7mm is too large. While pilifera is plausible, I would be much more inclined to call this P. davisi. Pilifera have very specific flight conditions and are normally a bit larger at 7-8mm, not to mention that she doesn't look anything like my own pilifera queen.


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#9 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted July 21 2020 - 6:22 PM

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Looks like Ph. davisi to me.


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#10 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 21 2020 - 6:30 PM

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Looks like Ph. davisi to me.

I second this.


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Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#11 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 21 2020 - 6:51 PM

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Are davisi polygynous?
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#12 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 21 2020 - 6:53 PM

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Nope, monogynous.(according to AntWiki)


Edited by Antkid12, July 21 2020 - 6:54 PM.

Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#13 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 22 2020 - 7:12 AM

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There’s next to nothing on the forum about P. davisi. Great!
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#14 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted July 22 2020 - 7:49 AM

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There’s next to nothing on the forum about P. davisi. Great! 

Should be the same as other Southeastern Pheidole.


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#15 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 22 2020 - 8:43 AM

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There is like, nothing about keeping these on the internet.


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Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#16 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted July 22 2020 - 8:45 AM

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There is like, nothing about keeping these on the internet.

There is now........
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

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Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#17 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 22 2020 - 8:50 AM

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There is like, nothing about keeping these on the internet.

I’ll just need to change that, won’t I?
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#18 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 24 2020 - 10:53 AM

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Here's a better photo if this helps any:


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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#19 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 24 2020 - 11:24 AM

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She looks so cool!


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Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#20 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted December 15 2020 - 4:58 PM

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I've also found what I believe to be Pheidole davisi:

 

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