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Cheeto's Solenopsis aurea (Golden Fire Ants) (Updated 1/27)


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#21 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted January 27 2021 - 10:12 AM

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maybe but the queens would die at some point


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#22 Offline antsandmore - Posted January 27 2021 - 12:22 PM

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maybe but the queens would die at some point

yes. I meant that the colony would live on because even if the founding queens died, they would have mate inside the nest and inbreed to keep the colony going.


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#23 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted January 27 2021 - 1:10 PM

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maybe but the queens would die at some point

yes. I meant that the colony would live on because even if the founding queens died, they would have mate inside the nest and inbreed to keep the colony going.

 

probably not


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#24 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted January 27 2021 - 1:14 PM

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To much inbreeding would shorten the life span of the workers and queen resulting in total colony failure within months.
We don’t talk about that

#25 Offline CheetoLord02 - Posted January 27 2021 - 1:18 PM

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In-nest mating in ants will usually perpetuate the colony's lifespan by at least an extra several years. In Solenopsis the queens usually like around 5-7 years, and especially since they're starting with more than one queen, there's at least a bit of genetic diversity to prevent too much incest with the in-nest mating. Eventually it would probably get bad enough to the point where the colony would fizzle out, but likely not for several new generations of queens.


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#26 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 27 2021 - 2:42 PM

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Nothing last forever, even cold November rain.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#27 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted January 27 2021 - 2:58 PM

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Nothing last forever, even cold November rain.

Axl would approve. 



#28 Offline antsandmore - Posted January 27 2021 - 3:25 PM

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Nothing last forever, even cold November rain.

except for those annoying argentine ants that keep coming. I mean not forever, but still a very long time


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#29 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted January 28 2021 - 10:15 AM

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the only thing that lasts forever are tetras :(


1X Pogonomyrmex occidentalis 40-50 Workers

1X Solenopsis molesta 10 Workers (mono)

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#30 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted January 28 2021 - 11:13 AM

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Perhaps if you can find new queens in nuptial flights the colony could be perpetuated that way. I've noticed that Solenopsis molesta often accept new dealates in to their colonies. I'm not sure how S. aurea would react to new queens, however I would polygynous Solenopsis would be pretty good with accepting queens. If you release the alates and introduce new queens instead, that would prevent inbreeding, or perhaps just add more genetic diversity.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis





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