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#1 Offline M_Ants - Posted November 22 2020 - 1:17 PM

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I (hopefully) have an extra Hypo colony that I'd really like to house in a small terrarium. I currently have no naturalistic setups for my ants so I want to give one a shot. What size glass bowl or glass container should I use that will hold a mature colony. I don't want to ever move them once I put them in. Also what plants do you guys recommend? I definitely want moss but I'm trash at growing moss so we'll see. I plan on having a drainage layer and having them live under a rock(thanks ANTdrew). Let me know what other suggestions you have. I want to get everything established before I move them in.


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#2 Offline NickAnter - Posted November 22 2020 - 3:37 PM

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The colonies don't exceed 100 workers very often, so something fairly small should do. I imagine a cereal bowl sized thing could be nice.
Also, put some rotting wood near the side, as they will nest in and around that.

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#3 Online Ants_Dakota - Posted November 23 2020 - 7:57 AM

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i want to keep a species of this really bad right now! then i can create a natural habitat for them!


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#4 Offline M_Ants - Posted November 23 2020 - 11:33 AM

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Anyone have plant suggestions? 


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#5 Online Ants_Dakota - Posted November 23 2020 - 12:11 PM

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Anyone have plant suggestions? 

ANTdrew will!


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#6 Offline ANTdrew - Posted November 23 2020 - 3:02 PM

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Ferns, mosses, polka dot plant, wild violets, violet wood sorrel, or Salvia lyrata.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#7 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 23 2020 - 4:18 PM

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Ferns and mosses are a must, if you're growing ferns then you know your setup is humid and basically perfect. mosses retain humidity and for hypoponera this is a needed thing.


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#8 Offline ponerinecat - Posted November 23 2020 - 4:46 PM

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I would actually avoid thick mosses, as you won't see the ants and they might as well not be there. Go for nice looking plants that either stick to the ground or grow in thin clumps, like liverworts or very small ferns. Would also suggest to make the substrate a very thin layer (like less than 7 mm thin, another reason to go for small plants) so the ants will actually come out. I've had mature 100 worker hypo colonies in normal terrariums, I didn't even realize they had survived and grown so much until I disassembled the tank. Never saw a worker, all the nest galleries were stuck to the very bottom of the tank.


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#9 Offline M_Ants - Posted November 23 2020 - 6:12 PM

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Darn. Why can't anything be simple? 


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#10 Offline M_Ants - Posted November 23 2020 - 6:26 PM

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Nothing seems small enough to grow in super shallow soil... 


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#11 Offline ponerinecat - Posted November 23 2020 - 6:52 PM

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Nothing seems small enough to grow in super shallow soil... 

Liverworts and mosses that don't grow in clumps. Look alongside bodies of water and underneath rock ledges for those, anywhere that is protected from sunlight really.



#12 Offline M_Ants - Posted November 23 2020 - 6:58 PM

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All I have near me is lakes. Never seen liverwort by them. Also would having a drainage layer actually be bad since they might go in it?

 

I just found this site: https://miniaturegar...ies/plants.html

Would anything from there work? 


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#13 Offline ANTdrew - Posted November 24 2020 - 3:36 AM

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This is why I have zero interest in keeping Cryptic species. Hiding away is in their nature.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#14 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 24 2020 - 5:06 AM

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I find that my stenamma queen is pretty cool I mean ill probably sell her once she gets workers or something but still having a species that forages while in founding is a fun experience.


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#15 Offline M_Ants - Posted November 24 2020 - 12:12 PM

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Any opinions on the plants in the link though?


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#16 Offline ponerinecat - Posted November 24 2020 - 3:18 PM

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Any opinions on the plants in the link though?

Not really. Just take a look around your area, tiny plants are everywhere. I can find them basically everywhere I look, including urban areas.



#17 Offline M_Ants - Posted November 24 2020 - 3:23 PM

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I mean I have weeds but that's about it. Nothing worth putting in a terrarium. 


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#18 Offline M_Ants - Posted November 24 2020 - 3:25 PM

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They aren't that tiny either. 


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#19 Offline ponerinecat - Posted November 24 2020 - 3:35 PM

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Tiny plants live in tiny places, you arent gonna see em growing out in the open. Look in between the grass and sidewalk if you live in urban area, or go to a park and check out any secluded niches under bushes, rock overhangs, or among wood.



#20 Offline M_Ants - Posted November 24 2020 - 3:39 PM

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I'll look but I really doubt I'll find anything. 


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