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Help identify these foreign invaders on my ant desk

Started By jasond1979 , Nov 17 2020 10:08 PM

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#21 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted November 18 2020 - 7:42 PM

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What in the world is a "preno" ?

Hobbyist shorthand for the genus prenolepis, almost always referring to imparis.

 

Like how some people refer to Argentine Ants as Argies and Camponotus as Camponotus and Tetramorium as Tetras anD Pogonomyrmex as Pogonomyrmex and Honey Pot Ants as Pots

 

you can literally not type the word p-o-g-o-s without it auto correcting to Pogonomyrmex


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#22 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted November 19 2020 - 12:43 PM

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Camponotus also was autocorrected to Camponotus
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#23 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted November 19 2020 - 12:46 PM

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Camponotus also was autocorrected to Camponotus

you mean C_ampo's was autocorrected to camponotus


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#24 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted November 19 2020 - 12:48 PM

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Camponotus also was autocorrected to Camponotus

you mean C_ampo's was autocorrected to camponotus
W_hat?

#25 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 19 2020 - 12:51 PM

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When every you type c.ampos without that period in it it auto corrects to camponotus.
We don’t talk about that

#26 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted November 19 2020 - 12:52 PM

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When every you type c.ampos without that period in it it auto corrects to camponotus.

O.kay
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#27 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted November 19 2020 - 1:00 PM

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When every you type c.ampos without that period in it it auto corrects to camponotus.

O.kay

 

s.trange f.ormiculture a.utocorrects.


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#28 Offline Devi - Posted November 19 2020 - 1:39 PM

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Yeah, Drew programmed the language filter to change that.  Lol


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#29 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted November 19 2020 - 5:14 PM

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It was really interesting with the Prenos vs. Tetramorium compared to Camponotus vs. Tetramorium. In both cases, there were delayed deaths on the non-Tetra side, as if Tetras have some kind of long-acting, late-effect venom. BUT with the Prenos, I found Tetramorium twitching and dying in the outworld pretty soon afterward. CLEALY they had been hit by the Preno toxin. Lost my Preno workers sadly, too. The toxic effects of Preno venom were very marked, though.


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#30 Offline jasond1979 - Posted April 11 2021 - 6:29 PM

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these guys are back again on my deskk.  I got  better pics so we can identify them more conclusively.  They are approximatley 1.6mm long and they seem to be going after protein on my desk.   I have to figure out how to kill these guys again.  They are going after a cricket leg that I left on my desk.
 
 
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#31 Offline Manitobant - Posted April 11 2021 - 7:17 PM

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Monomorium i think, maybe ergatogyna?
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#32 Offline ANTdrew - Posted April 12 2021 - 2:31 AM

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Definitely some kind of Monomorium.
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#33 Offline Chickalo - Posted April 12 2021 - 4:23 AM

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"How to Train Your Ants" lol

I didn't know Preno's were good at fighting.  I though they were good at...  uh...  getting fat?

Anyways, get microscope pics, that's what I'm trying with some Formica I found.  I you still go to school see if any science teachers there are willing to let you use them.  USB-Microscopes are also good since you can just plug em' in to your computer. 


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#34 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted April 12 2021 - 9:47 AM

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find the queens!!!!!! keep them!!


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#35 Offline Chickalo - Posted April 12 2021 - 9:54 AM

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find the queens!!!!!! keep them!!

AC vibes ngl.  Also, do you know where they're coming from?  That might give you an idea on where to look to find the colony,


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#36 Offline jasond1979 - Posted April 12 2021 - 5:36 PM

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critter between The Ant glass
 
While we are at it, these little guys/gals are living with my ants in the formicarium.  Seems like the ants don't mind them too much, they are also living between the glass and the formicarium.
Question is why don't the ants eat them?
2. What are these little critters.
 
Yea I'm not to happy with these ants might have to give them something to take back to their colony.
 
Also are these ants considered invasive or pests?   They seem awfully aggressive looking for food.  They are living on my back patio, I have argentines that are living in the front patio.   From what I understand is these Monomoriums can't compete with Argentine ants.

 


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#37 Offline ANTdrew - Posted April 12 2021 - 6:42 PM

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Monomorium are native. Those white dots look like grain mites.
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#38 Offline NickAnter - Posted April 12 2021 - 6:46 PM

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I only see a book louse there. No grain mites from what I can tell. Booklice are completely harmless, and probably beneficial.

 

In answer to your other question, Monomorium ergatogyna(any Monomorium in CA really) is a native species. They are considered a pest because they will commonly enter houses in search of food. Much better than argentines though in my opinion, they really seem to give native fauna a break by offering some real competition to argentines.


Edited by NickAnter, April 12 2021 - 6:48 PM.

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

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